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Post by Anthony Wicher on Dec 30, 2012 19:44:46 GMT -5
You say that Petraeus and the other military officers wanted to respond but were prevented by a stand-down order coming from the White House, which they should have disobeyed. It seems that they could have disobeyed the stand down order, but did not. Yet they were sacked anyway. Was it that the Administration feared they were so angry about being told to stand down that it feared a coup?
That seems to be what you are saying. You end by warning that if the Obama administration continues to abuse the foreign service and the military, he is going to get assassinated. Suppose all this is true. Instead of assassinating Obama, how about instead Petraeus and the other military people and the FSO's who were abused holding a press conference and giving their version of what happened? Would this not be more courageous, more honorable and more patriotic than assassinating our president? Would this not be infinitely more beneficial to our Republic? Yes it would. But then I'm just a simpleton who can't understand why honesty is always impossible and out of the question.
Also, for a piece entitled "what really happened", it's missing a few other things, like who did it (Ansar al Sharia, Libyan Shield, Sept 17th Martyr's brigade, Qumu, Belhadj, etc.), what exactly the motive was, why Stevens was targeted, and whether the militants who attacked were controlled by clandestine forces currently unknown, possibly anti-Obama forces within the CIA.
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Post by gerry on May 1, 2013 7:51:12 GMT -5
that benghazi podcast nearly had me throwing my slipper at the screen...mr piecsnik has a job getting to the point? he goes off into every tangent sub paragraph and hole in the ground before we ever get there. i survived the aggro to about 15 minutes then i gave up. its good its not scrited but somebody somewhere teach this bloke to whi along a list of essential points and try to restrain himself. and i dont care about catherine bigelow either. so if he dont care an i dont care then wy does she get metioned every 5 minutes. somebody wave a gag at him. and let the dog out too.
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Post by gerry on May 1, 2013 7:57:31 GMT -5
bad it is to hear of bergoloioli being a bad guy. but he cant be deselected. anyway i heard he got thrown out by argentina AND the jesuits. so maybe he isnt as bad as suspected. also i figured petraeus wasnt guilty in benghazi because he keeps the old image brightly polished he would never muck it up with anything dodgy. and also hollywood is a bunch of unclean zionazis who arent liberal or elite or even nice. even if the cia could be removed from out of hollywoods boudoirs the fact is they have so hogtied hollywood and made it jews only that its dying. better to get shot of hollywood altogether in fact. and i will now take a convalescence of about a year.
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Post by Sarah on May 18, 2013 3:53:34 GMT -5
I just listened to your talk on YouTube about Benghazi. And your comments about how the military and clandestine agencies are more powerful than the president and how the president is answerable to them rather than the other way around. And your comments about the US being a republic rather than a democracy.
First of all, I agree with what you said about the "consulate" being more a place for covert activities rather than consular activities. But the people who were killed in that attack had no business being where they were, doing the things they were doing. So the real issue isn't whether or not the Obama administration did a good enough job of trying to save the people who were under attack. The real issue is why isn't Obama being raked over the coals for interfering in the internal workings of other sovereign countries in violation of international law.
Whether we are a republic or not is irrelevant. We are a REPRESENTATIVE republic. That means that the elected officials are there specifically for the purpose of representing and carrying out the will of the voters. As the elected representative of the voters, that is how they derive their power. Not from having more guns or spooks. From the will of the people. The military and clandestine agencies do not represent the people. They carry out the will of the people. That is their only function. And they do it at the direction of the elected representatives of the voters.
But I think you have isolated the real problem. By saying that the president is answerable to the military and clandestine agencies rather than the voters, you are advocating a military dictatorship. Which perhaps is what we have already.
We're not supposed to have a standing military or any clandestine agencies anyway, but that kind of attitude proves that it's way past time to get rid of them. You think they're good people doing good work. But you are wrong. They are criminal enterprises engaging in deeply criminal activities. It's time to disband all of them and put all of their high level personnel in prison for war crimes.
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Post by gerry on Jun 1, 2013 10:11:06 GMT -5
i agree with srah the elected representative aspect of government...i both our countries...absolutely doesnt exist anymore. the whole political/military carousel is just that; a bloody funfair for murderous perves. criminals. britain is quietly being destroyed by the same corruption; its not as obvious and most brits are so braindead they neither know nor care. but it means we have no actual democracy. no real legit government. what we both got are deeply sick paranoics, maniacs, and general prostitues who asically arent worth a wank between them. they spend hours every day rediscovering that fact i'm sure. americans however are at least en masse either waking up to these humiliations, or are becoming very frightened though its an inchoate anxiety most feel but cant locate. in britain most people know britain is actually a dying country though most blame the two groups [islamics and blacks] who are the overt beneficiaries and remain wilfully blind to the presence everywhere of the invert group who is actually the source of all this criminal shit whether its banks thieving, military atrocities, clandestine murder sprees or satanism [complete with carnivorous aliens] in royal circles. nobody can stand to point at the jews. but thats who it is. anyway america is now on course for at least mass civil disobedience; and too much argy bargy from the wankers in the police [also corruted] and that will steadily become armed rebellion. as usual the clunkers in power think getting tough is the right answer. theyre going to die. but in GB the problem, same bastards same methods, is the opposite. the english have basically become fat supine and cowardly. what we need is a flare of passion and a military leaser with at least the beginnings of an army? do you realise sarah that in britain NO army type exists who has any idea of all this? yet they know perfectly well the aliens are running the shop via these criminal jews. i think their moronicsms will ensure the total loss of all white english people. its white genocide being set up throughout all the white countries. its chosen method appears to be famine. nasty a?
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Post by gerry on Jun 1, 2013 10:25:23 GMT -5
the investigation of beghazi and the murders by their own army of seal team 6 will destroy these twerps eventually. obama must know he is standing on a precipece. or if he doesnt somebody should give him a shove; solve the problem quicker. but then obama is only the parlour maid. behind it all is the shadow government. and they kowtow in turn to one species of aliens. the difference is this; the variety of creatures visiting us since about 1940 appear to be newcomers. the aliens who are directing the jews in this massive bid to murder or at least enslave all mankind [including the jews] seems to me long stayers? they know us. they have therefore been in situ for years and years. so theres the source. if this has all been a kind of nested series of games and tests that humans had to pass to prove they were fit to be advanced then i just passed that test and the aliens just failed. you know why? because they always hid like cowards. and obviously i'm right here. but we need an army to clean up.
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