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Post by jk on Sept 6, 2013 10:16:10 GMT -5
Extract from cable..
(S/NF) SAIF AL-ISLAM AL-QADHAFI AND HIS INNER CIRCLE Date: 2009 December 8, 23:03 (Tuesday)
S E C R E T STATE 125737 NOFORN SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/08/2034 TAGS: PINR, PGOV, PREL, LY SUBJECT: (S/NF) SAIF AL-ISLAM AL-QADHAFI AND HIS INNER CIRCLE Classified By: ELISSA G. PITTERLE, DIRECTOR, INR/OPS. REASON: 1.4(C) 1. (S/NF) WASHINGTON ANALYSTS ARE INTERESTED IN GENERAL COORDINATOR AND HEAD OF THE QADHAFI FOUNDATION FOR DEVELOPMENT (QFD) SAIF AL-ISLAM AL-QADHAFI'S INNER CIRCLE, INCLUDING WHOM SAIF TRUSTS, WHOSE ADVICE HE LISTENS TO THE MOST, AND ANY RIFTS THAT MAY EXIST AMONG HIS ADVISERS. AS TIME AND RESOURCES PERMIT, WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE POST'S ATTENTION TO THE TOPICS AND QUESTIONS BELOW BY THE END OF JANUARY: A. (S/NF) WHO BELONGS TO SAIF AL-ISLAM AL-QADHAFI'S INNER CIRCLE (OFFICIALS HE TRUSTS THE MOST AND WHO PERFORM THE MOST IMPORTANT TASKS FOR HIM) AND WHAT ARE THEIR OFFICIAL TITLES? WHAT FUNCTION(S) DO THEY SERVE FOR SAIF AND WHAT IS THE NATURE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP? WHAT IS THEIR BASIC BIOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND, IF POST HAS MET THEM, WHAT ARE THEY LIKE AS INTERLOCUTORS? B. (S/NF) DO ANY MAJOR RIFTS ON POLICY, POLITICS, OR IDEOLOGY EXIST AMONG MEMBERS OF SAIF'S INNER CIRCLE? IF YES, BETWEEN WHOM, AND ON WHAT ISSUE(S) DO THEY DISAGREE? WHOSE INFLUENCE IN THESE RIFTS HAS CARRIED MORE WEIGHT? C. (S/NF) OF THE INNER CIRCLE, WHICH THREE OFFICIALS DOES SAIF TRUST THE MOST (E.G., TO CARRY OUT POLITICALLY SENSITIVE TASKS, ON PERSONAL MATTERS)? D. (S/NF) AMONG MEMBERS OF THE INNER CIRCLE, WHICH OFFICIALS HAVE THE ABILITY TO INFLUENCE SAIF, BEYOND JUST IMPLEMENTING HIS PLANS? E. (S/NF) WHO ARE SAIF'S MOST INFLUENTIAL ADVISERS IN THE FOLLOWING ISSUE AREAS (THERE MAY BE SOME OVERLAP ACROSS ISSUE AREAS): DOMESTIC POLITICS, QFD WORK, BUSINESS DEALINGS, ECONOMICS, AND FOREIGN RELATIONS? F. (S/NF) TO WHAT EXTENT ARE MEMBERS OF SAIF'S INNER CIRCLE INVOLVED IN HIS DECISIONS? G. (S/NF) DOES SAIF HAVE ANY ALLIES IN HIS FAMILY? IF SO, WHO? ARE THEY ABLE TO INFLUENCE SAIF? WHAT IS HIS RELATIONSHIP LIKE WITH KHAMIS AL-QADHAFI? 3. (U) TRIPOLI MINIMIZE CONSIDERED. CLINTON
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Post by jk on Sept 6, 2013 18:29:19 GMT -5
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Post by firecracker on Sept 6, 2013 20:01:11 GMT -5
Great pic, JK...looks like the chosen one is about to ascend into the clouds...and Soros sitting there with his hand onto the side of the stairwell...probably wondering how he can get it back up his puppet's butt! And the graphic of the supporters of HRW, terrific. Silly me, I 'did' ask how much deeper the rabbit hole went LOL
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Post by jk on Sept 6, 2013 20:18:43 GMT -5
Thanks Firecracker. It goes much deeper, in several different directions... The last of this thread shortly.
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Post by jk on Sept 6, 2013 21:16:11 GMT -5
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Post by firecracker on Sept 7, 2013 9:33:27 GMT -5
In War of Eagles, Tom Clancy's Op Center series, there is an explosion of a Chinese freighter in Charleston Harbor. Has anyone read this? I'd be interested in the details.
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Post by jk on Sept 7, 2013 19:14:36 GMT -5
Sounds like a distraction. Even if a legitimate scenario, with it now being discussed in media,not likely. There might well be a FF if Congress votes against action in Syria. That being said, with the USG now being scrutinized closely,it will be a hard sell for a FF domestic or abroad. The current Admin will act with or without the vote for action.It has already been decided. They are all in at this point. They figure they can do damage control after the attack now. Spinning the info as they see fit.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 7, 2013 19:24:19 GMT -5
Yes, it is clear this Prez is going forward with Syria. He thought he could get cover from Congress...and buy some time to assess his personal situation...cornered? We are living in historic times. Could be less historic...would suit me fine...but they don't consult with me!
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Post by jk on Sept 7, 2013 19:46:51 GMT -5
Yes. Congress bought him time and the illusion of "doing the right...legal thing". The push back is something that was not expected. Tension... On the level of the Cuban missile crises. Syria is just a stepping stone to Iran. Iran is seen NOW as a new "terror" threat. Israel is the key. Preemptive strike on Iran is a must for Israel.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 7, 2013 20:23:37 GMT -5
I gather that the Iran/Israel thing is a hatred going back centuries. Every day I awaken and the world hasn't gone KABOOM! and Drudge doesn't have big headlines, U.S. Nukes Syria...or Iran...I figure it's gonna be a good day! Strange to have Putin looking like the leader of the free world. His cold analytical sanity just brackets the insanity in OUR government!
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Post by jk on Sept 7, 2013 20:35:51 GMT -5
You got it. When Putin...Yes...(KGB) starts to make sense...WOW. He will let Syria strikes happen...His "Red Line" is Iran. Putin knows the plan.
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Post by jk on Sept 7, 2013 20:58:04 GMT -5
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Post by firecracker on Sept 8, 2013 10:02:17 GMT -5
Yes, that link pretty well sums it up. But it is absolute insanity to think that Iran is going to pull in if we attack Syria. The psychopaths here operating as the USG, do not understand the mind set of the people in the Middle East. They do not think like the liberal fluoride-headed freaks in control of our government. War isn't a high altitude bloodless broadcast on the 6 o'clock news to them. It is grabbing the Prez's daughter, raping and killing her. War is war to them....not theater. We are in a cycle of the ages. Just as the financial markets have long term cycles, so too does humanity. The specter of our dying empire is painful to behold. And the fact that it has been enabled and emboldened by the election of a mixed race president makes it all the more sad. Every 'minority' (actually majority) should be outraged at the actions of the first of their members to occupy the highest office carrying out these atrocities in their name. But the propaganda has perpetuated the myth and blinded the citizenry to the true nature of the beast in the White House. I wish no harm to the two young women in that beastly family. But the threat to their safety should not be taken lightly. Iran and Assad and Putin are through playing silly games. What could be coming is for professionals only...and we have a community organizing amateur in our corner. Thanks for the link, excellent article.
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Post by Messenger on Sept 8, 2013 17:12:06 GMT -5
You haven’t performed your homework as relates to ‘lists for genocide’ and the coming and present deniability, KGB methodology being performed by offshore ‘coup’. Why did they come in partnership with these ‘specialist’ for such operations |please review the processes and methods once again ‘Eight Stages Genocide’ and KGB Psychological Warfare? And what of the offshore ‘coup’ that took over about 10 years or more ago, why did they create the ‘list’ of millions to grow larger in time? This coups’ ideology is about ‘centralizing wealth and control’ to favor |them| and their businesses, as to direct toward themselves, and yet the ‘list’ of many was to collect the names of such peoples’ who differed in such ideology in the US. As performed historically over time using the same means and methods while applying newer and more modern technique.
It’s like an old story written 60 years ago or so, where many would not recognize the chapters, or the stage by stage narrative if such was rewritten years later using more modern technique as applied to current times. And yet those ‘few’ who knew and understood this story, would recognize the new story as the-old, even though the culture and environments were updated to fit present times for this past story.
Does the ‘coup’ need to ‘setup’ the President to ‘fall’ to complete their planned genocide (I believe this to be true). How does the past villain become the hero? Will the villain become the ‘new hero’ who must capture all the existing villains or the ‘listed’? How would this be accomplished if such were planned, what method would be used so as to make such a co-operative endeavor?
An example, If someone was ‘listed’ by offshore group, because onshore groups would not believe this true, who would pursue this listed person? Offshore operatives, because they would have NO knowledge they were being misinformed…can larger forces be employed in similar ways? Given the right propaganda, overtime....this maybe possible.
Otherwise their objective ‘may not’ be possible, and yet they must rid themselves of those who may have exposed some of their ‘members’, their ‘groups’, or ‘millions’ if needed. This type of cleansing operation is nothing new and progresses over time, but in time, accelerates during specific periods for possible rapid elimination. When they have some knowledge of being exposed, they will attempt to accelerate such thing.
As we move through the ‘eight stages’ nearing the end of the above stated and as performed by offshore coup with resources and exceptional cash flows, there’s specific means and methods identified that assist such operations and make more possible. One as noted historically involves certain processes, but when many of those involved in this endeavor start understanding this program, they will move into the ‘State of Denial’. And another such method is to ‘Pacify’ the public, and what does this mean? This simply means ‘specialist’ are contracted to turn the peoples' attention away from such provocation, as to ‘programmatically hypnotize’ them to believe nothing is taking place. The purpose of these ‘specialists’ is to hide the program as stated above even though methods, processes, and evident are placed directly in front of their eyes, ‘They refuse to Investigate’. |Does this sound like KGB Physiological Operation Methodology? Yes, and directly taken from their handbook|. They too for some time are operating with the larger ‘offshore coup’, as to cover up these operations.
And likewise this was historically practiced overtime, ensuring the ‘genocide’ can be accomplished.
So strap into your seat and watch closely,
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Post by Messenger on Sept 8, 2013 19:22:57 GMT -5
Make your 'own' assessment, this journey is over.
And Remember, Many offshore contractors work for 'companies', and often such companies have 'duality' in their business operations and such can create problems.
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