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Zorg51
Jul 11, 2013 18:39:30 GMT -5
Post by Zorg51 on Jul 11, 2013 18:39:30 GMT -5
A-S Zorg51 was story regarding energy, and how far ‘some maybe willing to go as for maintaining their control over resources. And yet, there is NO ending, I believe this story needs completed and should include many attempting to prevent such things. While others are introducing new things of extraordinary value. Many factors become more visible, as are aliens working in various directions to solve such things. This story becomes more complex as many new alien characters are introduced into this expanding scenario. But, I see younger alien group appearing from no where, in the middle or near end of this story. They were collectively compiling information, while secretly planning to save the aliens from zorg51. In fact many of the earlier characters never succeeded in their tasks, but were smart enough to pass information, while others slowed down zorg51. The heroes do not appear at the beginning, they appear more so near the middle and end. I wonder when someone will complete this story, for often such is the plan.
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Zorg51
Jul 11, 2013 20:02:06 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Jul 11, 2013 20:02:06 GMT -5
In an interview with Alex Jones, recently, Jim Marrs set forth the plan to get alternative energy systems, etc., past the current blockade. He said, design it and do not patent it. Release it to the world via the internet and other ways, no patent. Then, set up company with rights to build the design or assist with the building of the design for the common man. Too many patents are purchased and mothballed. This would be an idea for getting past at least that one blockade. Jim specifically referenced an off the shelf energy system he saw exhibited at a recent conference that used hydrogen...it ran on water. I'm not up on how this system would work, he said the byproduct would be Oxygen, my friend says no, it would be water. I cannot wrap my head around an energy system that would use the hydrogen in water and would end up with a byproduct the same as that with which you began.
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Zorg51
Jul 11, 2013 20:45:47 GMT -5
Post by Zorg51 on Jul 11, 2013 20:45:47 GMT -5
I understand all the above, have invented many things over time. Hydrogen extraction is some what similar to electrolysis, however, the secret maybe the 'energy' required to do so, or maybe the ‘frequency'.
Someone told me, some technology will be ‘disclosed’ very soon or within 72 hours. They said, it was the result of two ‘brilliant minds’ colliding to understand ‘communications. They will dedicate this story to ‘Dr. Pieczenik’, should he hear thereafter the pool of propaganda go ‘wild, then he will know once ‘again.
They must make their decision soon, as to deceive the young minds of their future, or stimulate them so as the light is brighter into the future.
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Zorg51
Jul 11, 2013 21:20:55 GMT -5
Post by Zorg51 on Jul 11, 2013 21:20:55 GMT -5
Hydrogen is combustible, and can be used to power vehicles and other things with minimal changes required. But to extract H from H20 requires energy, and believe someone showed you how this can be accomplished using magnetic repulsion, with special rotor, maybe some hidden video. This in combination to above said, is the fastest solution for possible problem, because vehicles and other things use specific fuels. However such can be replaced, by applying the combination of both technologies for the fastest solution. Share such information with others.
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Zorg51
Jul 11, 2013 22:07:27 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Jul 11, 2013 22:07:27 GMT -5
Yes, thank you for the reminder on the video. And I gather from Jim Marrs interview that little or NO adaptation is needed to the current engines to use this new energy system.
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 14:48:59 GMT -5
Post by Zorg51 on Jul 12, 2013 14:48:59 GMT -5
Electric Cars, anyone?
Someone wrote detailed proposal in early 2008 about using the 25B to implement electric vehicle technology in U.S. Cities, and to build the support infrastructure for this technology. I believe this encompassed 25 cities, and about 30,000 electric vehicles per city to include charging facilities and other. This for replacing existing taxis’ for inner city transportation systems, with less C02, and less noise, where both “really need reduced”. This way the appropriate infrastructure for this technology can be developed. But behind the scenes would require some negotiation as to use electric vehicles more readily in cities, and of course fossil fuels more outside. Solar Cells were to be used in conjunction with available electrical energy for charging the batteries at these automated stations. The batteries were to be automatically changed at these stations from under the electrical vehicles. A global product would have resulted by developing this new inner city “transportation system”.
However, about 3 or more years were required, with year by year process, with substantial savings versus fossil fuels. If fact it was calculated as to sustain the businesses and with “small tax” generate $2 billion dollars per year to fund the railway projects or other, which require more time for implementation.
Batteries of such require lithium; I wonder who has this resource.
Very detailed, and completely ignored.
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 16:37:13 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Jul 12, 2013 16:37:13 GMT -5
China, Wyoming and North Carolina as far as I can tell are the areas with the most readily available sources of lithium. Of course, China is the one currently sitting on the majority of this mineral. I find it interesting that it is mined out of salt brine...and that there is a problem with sinkholes and salt domes. Were we mining lithium from these salt domes? Electric cars. Let me play devil's advocate for just a moment, in an effort to better understand the viability. 1. The idea of "swapping" batteries...isn't this unrealistic given the size of these batteries and the cost. For instance, I have a car whose battery is about shot and I swap it out at one of these exchanges and get a "good" battery. And the next poor sucker finds out that he got my "bad" battery and has to replace the battery at the cost of thousands of dollars? 2. Friend in the electric generating industry finds the whole electric car phenomenon ridiculous. The electric is being generated by fossil fuels and nuclear. And generating capacity is already stretched extremely thin. New capacity requires 20 years between the intent, thru the permitting and finally the building. I loved riding the Strasse in Germany. Many cities could institute light rail commute from suburbs into city centers where a similar mass transit could be set up. And I had one of the first Renault Alliance cars, got routinely and everywhere, 57 miles per gallon. If they could build that in the 80's, why can't we build cars in the 21st century that get 57 mpg? And finally, hydrogen is everywhere and the technology to use this nearly free energy is being suppressed. Why?
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 17:07:11 GMT -5
Post by somersdave on Jul 12, 2013 17:07:11 GMT -5
I listened to Alex / Jim Marrs and generally agreed with what was said but unfortunately they go beyond their field of expertise and make errors which then tends to undermine the thrust of what they are saying.
There's a good talk by the late Antony Sutton on Youtube where he warns about not exaggerating/creating info. as this can destroy the whole argument (sort of one rotten apple in the barrel) and going back to th Alex interview, Prof. Sutton explained (in his Dr. Stan 'Best Enemies' interview) that Germany could not have gone to war in 1939 without the technical assistance given to it by the Standard Oil/IG Farben technical interlock - enabling the production of aviation grade gasoline - whereas Jim painted some picture of East - West info. flow, such as A bomb technology coming from the Nazis. I believe that Von Braun got started by learning from American, Goddard. If I recall, that by accident or design, physicist Heisenberg (over) miscalculated the amount of fissile material needed to make a bomb. When Jim mentioned Uranium, I think, being transported by U235, I thought he was making some sort of clever joke.
In the world of quantum mechanics it does appear possible to at least 'borrow' energy from the future and have particles of matter appear from nothing and disappear the same way and get a net force between bodies in a vacuum (the Kasimir? effect) suggesting the possibility of extracting energy.
However, in the everyday world, getting something for nothing (outside crime, welfare and fractional reserve banking) seems to defy the laws of thermo. So 100 mpg carbs. on (didn't specify engine size) big block V8s seems improbable. Having said that, H2 would make a beautiful, high efficiency, near pollution free fuel which could be stored safely in hydride form. Much work has been done on producing hydrogen fuel but simply using tidal/wind/solar and electricity wouldn't involve science fiction.
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 18:02:59 GMT -5
Post by Zorg51 on Jul 12, 2013 18:02:59 GMT -5
I was former senior consultant in the auto and truck industries. The problem is vehicles weight versus payload (inefficient). Vehicles are generally built around fossil fuel technologies and there supporting systems. And this requires metal stamping facilities, of high cost. The compatibility to use this technology to create electric vehicles is not efficient, and this forced. Batteries are used to “store energy”; there are various ways to produce the electrical energy to charge the batteries, as there are ways to reduce the load “from the electric motor”. I have not researched to any depth the extraction of Hydrogen from H20, however it’s possible, and would likely require some changes in the engine timing (cylinder ignition), and changing some polymer based hoses more compatible to Hydrogen then Petrol based fuels. Possible chemical to polymer reaction, but the cost would be minimal to change these hoses. To implement such electric car technology requires continual usage, meaning the vehicles can have power sources changed. The concept of changing battery underneath vehicle is not new, www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lp_6VyIeSYAnd dave, Are you talking about magnetic motor technology? You must not understand this subject matter.
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 18:34:13 GMT -5
Post by Zorg51 on Jul 12, 2013 18:34:13 GMT -5
somersdave,
Here’s a mechanical exercise, you have funnel and a “magic” marble. The marble is self propelled, it spins, so you place this magic marble within this funnel and it starts orbiting on the inner side. However, this funnel starts slowly spinning as well, and makes the marbles orbital path appear to slow, and slow again, and this funnel spins faster then marble appears to stop, and then the funnel maintains this speed. And yet the marble is still spinning, what is the funnel? What is the magic marble?
The article above will not be released, it's wasted time.
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 20:25:15 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Jul 12, 2013 20:25:15 GMT -5
Here's a link to a youtube of an electric car without a battery. The headline says they killed the inventor. I would not be surprised. I noticed the comments had one person who said this was a hoax. My grandfather was an electrician and my ex a mechanic. What he shows looks legit to me. I'll share the link. Zorg, I appreciated the link to the battery replacement video. I would be much more excited about the car at this youtube link, if it could be produced. www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeKnDxWRHYIDid the 2008 proposal by "someone" have an electric car with a battery, or the one like the youtube above? And, forgive me, but what is 25B?
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 20:39:21 GMT -5
Post by Zorg51 on Jul 12, 2013 20:39:21 GMT -5
I wrote the proposal. news.discovery.com/earth/afghanistan-minerals-lithium.htmGive me several minutes, then will provide some examples of what people can do, to start companies. Types of electric vehicles. I'm aware the 'Hydrogen, we need to make some steps. I know how to make car function without fuel or battery, but step by step. Maybe the above two first.
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 21:01:09 GMT -5
Post by Zorg51 on Jul 12, 2013 21:01:09 GMT -5
Magnetic Motors have been around for sometime with various configurations, some ‘can function’ while others are complete propaganda. I would have to study the electrical and inductive circuits of the motor to tell you whether the device can function. I understand the principles. Is the motor as stated in your video functional, it's possible. I designed the most simple magnetic ‘induction rotor’ likely that’s possible, so people can understand this technology. Some of the more complex applications you may see are likely fake, the complexity is not required. Some samples of electric car technology. Notice (3) wheels therefore considered motorcycle, way to get around big 3. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs7crWLL268www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktE0uFK-4K8
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 21:04:54 GMT -5
Post by Zorg51 on Jul 12, 2013 21:04:54 GMT -5
25B is 25 billion dollars, 1-billion per city. And these cars had batteries, somehow I don't believe anyone is ready for magnet motor technology or other associated systems.
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Zorg51
Jul 12, 2013 22:36:18 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Jul 12, 2013 22:36:18 GMT -5
Pretty interesting looking concept cars. Thanks for the explanation of the reason for 3 wheel vehicle. I always wondered why. Also, the video explanation (green car) of the use of the commuter lane, significant also. sorry I missed the $25B, thanks for the explanation. Afghanistan and the lithium...duh....I had forgotten this and Google didn't pull it up when I quickly searched. All of the debate about whether the warring culture there can handle the new wealth...what B.S. Reality is, just like every other place we've pulled this sh*t, the robber barons have NO intention of sharing the wealth! What a line of crap they have perfected to run cover for their thievery! So much wealth, potential and quality of life has been and is being robbed from humanity. Sadness. Disgust. Rage.
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