Post by firecracker on Jun 19, 2013 10:20:40 GMT -5
Michael Hastings, age 33, dead in a high speed car crash. His article is credited for having brought down a general. Here's a link, as a tribute to someone who tried to expose what is going on, to his last article about Why Democrats Love to Spy on Americans: lead excerpt: Besides Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall, most Democrats abandoned their civil liberty positions during the age of Obama. With a new leak investigation looming, the Democrat leadership are now being forced to confront all the secrets they’ve tried to hide. www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/why-democrats-love-to-spy-on-americans
Post by Vercingetorix on Jun 19, 2013 12:26:18 GMT -5
It’s reminds me of an ancient time, and ‘one of many who attempted to breach the inner and outer walls. Who found themselves trapped in between, maybe such was the misunderstanding of these things and fortifications used to monitor the gaps. A better understanding of such things prior too, may lead to greater success.
Post by firecracker on Jun 19, 2013 14:06:43 GMT -5
The entrapment there could be deadly. Probably taught somewhere in some text in military history. Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it. Humans in the inner wall know they must break free or die. A dynamic environment....either deteriorating or expanding. Hastings got caught in a static environment of death. Totally contained and entrapped the inner. He failed to recognize the environment he was in.
Post by firecracker on Jun 19, 2013 14:52:29 GMT -5
Vercin....here is a quote attributed to you in film...heck of a quote!
"I want to force Ceasar back on the same road himself built. It's movement which uses the the pretext of the free movement of goods and men to accelerate the orders of the empire, which stangles us to satisfy its ambition."
your namesake did not succeed...hopefully, more success will be thine
This email from Alan Grayson (D) Florida was sent to me by Alan Grayson (D) Florida on 6/18/2013. In it, the congressman states that the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership Trade Agreement) surrenders U.S. Sovereignty.
I believe it to be of grave importance that the American people be made aware of these negotiations and what they will mean to this nation if allowed to pass into law.
So many who dare to speak out as Michael Hastings has, continue to meet untimely deaths. We cannot allow these heroic efforts to inform the public, end in the loss of U.S. Sovereignty.
All current U.S. Trade agreements, beginning with NAFTA include provisions requiring a panel of international judges reside over and rule on disputes. No public access and no public input is allowed. The proceedings are required to be conducted in absolute secret. The ruling of the international panel of judges is binding on ALL TRADE AGREEMENT SIGNATORIES. Granting power over U.S. law and courts is prohibited in the U.S. Constitution. To do so, constitutes treason.
NAFTA was illegally passed into law by Bill Clinton. Since all U.S. treaties constitutionally require a two-thirds senate majority approval, when Clinton couldn't get the vote required, he simply stated that NAFTA was NOT A TREATY, but simply an "AGREEMENT" and declared victory with a simple senate majority vote. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DEFINABLE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORDS TREATY AND/OR AGREEMENT.
We must find a way to stop surrender of the sovereignty of our nation into the hands of a tyrannical dictatorship, or Michael Hasting's efforts along with untold others will be for nothing.
The letter from Grayson follows:
For No Real Reason.
You spoke, they listened.
Last month, 10,000 of us submitted comments to the United States Trade Representative (USTR), in which we objected to new so-called free trade agreements. We asked that the government not sell out our democracy to corporate interests.
Because of this pressure, the USTR finally let a member of Congress - little ole me, Alan Grayson - actually see the text of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). The TPP is a large, secret trade agreement that is being negotiated with many countries in East Asia and South America.
The TPP is nicknamed "NAFTA on steroids." Now that I've read it, I can see why. I can't tell you what's in the agreement, because the U.S. Trade Representative calls it classified. But I can tell you two things about it.
1) There is no national security purpose in keeping this text secret.
2) This agreement hands the sovereignty of our country over to corporate interests.
3) What they can't afford to tell the American public is that [the rest of this sentence is classified].
(Well, I did promise to tell you only two things about it.)
I will be fighting this agreement with everything I've got. And I know you'll be there every step of the way.
For now, I've set up an e-mail address where you can ask me questions on this topic or other topics: firstname.lastname@example.org
Post by firecracker on Jun 19, 2013 16:44:41 GMT -5
Stellar as always, Topwrench. And I hark back to what Steve P. said on Alex Jones that sent AJ into a ballistic spiral.....take back your country now because if you wait, you will no longer have a country to take back. (apologies to steve for bad paraphrase) Those who could take back our country have the knowledge and tools to do it. We must do what we can to slow things down. But those who can, and are on the right side of things....isn't it about time you got a plan and implemented it?? I mean, I feel like every day I should scream at the top of my lungs.....CAN WE PLEASE STOP THE INSANITY NOW!!!!! Another way to put Steve's thoughts might be, ya know, it might be nice if, while you still have others who will stand with you, that you stood up for life and liberty. Cause if we keep screwing around while they pick us off one by one....bad ending!
Firecracker...you are not alone in your frustration. Regret repetitive words in my last post...babysitting for cranky grandchildren and writing at the same time doesn't always work well.
I have uncovered some interesting info regarding the "birther" issue: 1. Kapu-Lani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital listed on the birth certificate posted online wasn't named Kapu-Lani until 1978, seventeen years after Obama claims to have been born there. 2. Obama's race is indicated as African-American when the proper term used in 1961 on birth certificates was "Mulatto" = 1 white 1 black parent. 3. Obama's father's birthplace is listed as Kenya, East Africa. In fact, at the time of Obama's birth, it was known as: "British East Africa Protectorate" and wasn't named Kenya until two years later.
How much fraud, deception, murder and treason can one president get away with?
Hearing MSM ponder whether 9/11/2001 could've been prevented had the "prism" technology been in operation and claiming the spy program prevented 50 terrorist attacks is total damage control B.S. not based in fact. A similar comprehensive program was operational since 1996 known as "Stellar Wind". William Binney, former NSA chief continues to state on the record, ...due to his concerns about legality, he created the "Thin Thread" technology that allowed the necessary intelligence gathering without violating fourth amendment privacy rights. NSA refused to use it, which led to Binney's resignation. Why are there no questions during investigative hearings that include that information? NSA AND THE FBI had the option and they intentionally chose to violate constitutional law!
Seeing headlines today reporting Obama is PURSUING merging the U.S. with the E.U. (now fighting communist dictatorship control after loss of all sovereignty), nothing seems to slow this train wreck waiting to happen. V.P. Biden's speech at the April 5, 2013 Import Export Bank meeting, referencing a "New World Order", while indicating the necessity of updating the U.S. Constitution was troubling...guess he doesn't think much of the one he swore to "protect, preserve and defend."
Obama announces he's sending financial assistance and small arms to cannibalistic Al Quaeda associate group Al Nuzra to help them overthrow the leader of a country we are not at war with. No congressional approval sought, he violates the very law he insisted upon, that calls for indefinite detention, without due process for anyone even suspected of aiding the terrorist group.
Congress still has the power to stop this. We can only hope that enough of them envision their children and grandchildren growing up without freedom, under communist control...and realize they will bear responsibility for the suffering future generations will endure if Obama doesn't have them executed first.
Post by firecracker on Jun 19, 2013 23:08:40 GMT -5
Do you keep all this stuff in your cranium, or do you take notes and file in such an organized fashion that you can pull it back quickly? Yegads! I envy your ability to put it all down as if you're writing a history book...of course most history books are nothing but B.S.
Now, I had not heard that Obama talked about merging the U.S. with the E.U. HORRIBLE NEWS!!!!!!!!
What are they going to do.....take us down with all the EU debt and let Germany rise....the rise of the 4th Reich? Man, I speak German, visited there in 1968 for a summer....maybe that's the place to be! My French is pretty lousy. But could probably survive in French speaking Canada.
As to the birther issue, those things you have mentioned and many more are true. Which is why we cannot expect that congress or the courts will do anything...because all that stuff and much more was presented to the courts and to members of Congress...and they have done NOTHING!
We're really in a pickle. If I were younger, I would be so far gone out of this country it would make everyone's head spin. I realize that most of the globe will not escape this...but we are in the center of the storm...it will be really bad here. I've been busy and haven't checked Drudge and other news sites today. I've got to hear those words (re: EU) out of the liar in chief's mouth. This is speeding along so quickly it is taking my breath away.
The world we grew up in was a much nicer place here in the U.S....at least that's my opinion.
Thanks for the heads up on the EU bit.....absolutely unbelievable.
Post by firecracker on Jun 19, 2013 23:28:25 GMT -5
the "handle" you have chosen on this forum was the head of the military that fought against the Romans and lost....at least that's what it said in the description when I googled Vercingetorix...was the leader of the opposing forces and lost to Cesear?...the double wall method...in the movie...off the Imbd site What DOES vercingetorix mean? Never heard of it before today. I figured it was quite a name, that it must stand for something or be code...so I googled it...but then maybe google lied Maybe it really stands for xirotegnicrev ...sorry, I'm getting tired and foolish. My webinar went 2 1/2 hrs. instead of an hour...
Firecracker... In response to your inquiry...diagnosed photographic memory.
To view Obama's U.S.-E.U. merger speech, listen to speeches he's made in Germany on current trip. Thought we had a revolution to cut ties like that, didn't we?
To understand the power of "Trade Agreements" and see how they grant power over U.S. Courts and Constitutional Law provisions prohibiting creating any such power, look up "Canada vs. Ethyl Corp. (2005).
Prior to NAFTA, corporations didn't have enough security to move to foreign countries especially with unstable governments. In granting corporate power the right to secretly sue foreign governments for interfering with business and corporate profits, under NAFTA's provisions that provide for an international panel of judges (which are pre-destined to rule in favor of business), the rulings are binding on ALL trade agreement signees, including the U.S.. This is a clear case of TREASON based on constitutional law. However, since all hearings are required to proceed without public access or input, and the findings are classified "Top Secret" and kept confidential. All of this is done without public disclosure. Anyone who still supports the Clintons can't be aware of what they've done to facilitate this.
That opened the door to increased corporate profits by operating in foreign countries, leading to the loss of our industrial base. Taking down the U.S. necessitated undermining our economy. De-regulation, and the intentional coaxing of the middle class into "debt bondage" intentionally orchestrated by the Federal Reserve Bank is no "conspiracy theory", it's proven history. Alan Greenspan went before congress claiming he didn't expect the results of his policies to lead to the '08 financial collapse. If you're familiar with Basel I and Basel II both issued by the International Bank for Settlements) known as Hitler's bank, you know how and where the directives originated.
Watch Argentina carefully. That is the benchmark being used. Our issues were first imposed on Argentina in the early 90's. The country remains in turmoil, due to economic destruction but most importantly, the current government's seizure of all citizen's retirement funds. I believe that's next for us.
A great deal of mega-wealthy funds were handled through the Cyprus Banks, including laundered illegal drug funds. Confiscating a huge potion of those funds was designed to force even the mega rich into debt bondage when working capital for their businesses had to be borrowed to stay up and running. The goal is to lead the entire planet into such debt bondage that we are begging for the one world central bank to step in. Big question is who & what will reign victorious in the struggle to control it. SADLY...ALL OF IT IS BASED ON MONEY...REMEMBERING THAT MONEY IS POWER, the success of the "men behind the curtain" is dependent on their control of our money through the Federal Reserve Bank.
We have the tools to stop this in the U.S. Constitution. Unfortunately our elected officials are so arrogant that they believe they will not be victimized due to the wealth they've accumulated. That wealth will be intentionally eliminated as soon as their usefulness is exhausted and the fruits of their labor...that results in the destruction of U.S. Constitutional Law is no longer there to protect them.
Post by firecracker on Jun 20, 2013 21:54:41 GMT -5
Yes, I agree on Argentina from what I have learned. The pp. that caught me off guard was the one re: NAFTA. Truly, I have not heard this discussed with these details. Makes a lot of sense out of things. Is Topwrench a military term? Been around lots of mechanics and have never heard that used. Now that more info has come out about Hastings...driving a Mercedes, car explodes LOUDLY before getting to the pole...motor found 50 or 60 yards away....confirms everything we thought we knew the moment we read of it. Death and suffering follows the NWO everywhere it goes. There must be life elsewhere in the vast unknown that has transcended the insanity of this planet. We could be so much more than what we are. As to Congress, my mother worked for a U.S. Congressman...the drama behind the scenes....the attempt of one relatively honest Congressman to start exposing and cleaning up the mess....usually circumvented by within their own organization. And if they can't circumvent by buying off with money or threatening with scandal or I.R.S., then R.I.P. Hastings. Is there a news source into which you are tapped where you are extracting these gems, or, as I suspect, is your source other (in which case, no need to answer). And if the source is open and on the net, could you direct me to it. You are extremely well informed.
Firecracker: No specific "source" that I can recommend just an avid lover of the written word... So much information is out there if you have the time and interest. With the availability of info verification on the net, from so many sources, the truth is generally discernible.
With 40 years of experience in the automotive industry, my husband has always been referred to as the "Topwrench"...
Although politics and politician's corruption are commonly known, I think we may've either reached the point of no return or things have gotten so bad, the politicians are realizing the gravy train may soon be no longer available for the ride.
Considering their positions and powers are derived from the constitution they're in the process of destroying, it's self-destrution or suicide if they proceed to "Killing the goose that laid the golden egg."