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Post by topwrench on Jun 26, 2013 11:08:18 GMT -5
Reference "Laskar's comment...
I,too, did a double take when I read Dr. P's endorsement of the four star general based on his cyber expertise.
Antagonistic efforts creating the necessity of martial law would serve the desires of those who legalized such quite well. Calling to action, claiming there is no commander-in-chief, may be well-intentioned, but serves that purpose, too.
Rescinding "Posee Commitatus" places even more power in the hands of the four star general head of cyber command... With no real justification to vote in favor of repeal, where did the influence come from?
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Post by littlekid on Jun 27, 2013 9:57:25 GMT -5
Snowden is a mass distractionn
NSA scandal doesn't necessarily help exposing the Government are corrupted
1:Because of the "terroists" threat, it's easy for the Gov't to find an excuse
2:Snowden does not necessarily help people whistle-blowing,because people might realize that Gov know everything, so thing twice before you whistle-blow,the threat of big brother could take you out before you exposing scandals
3:not a single thing have done to the US gov, because no one ever have suggest shutting the program down, no one is holding accountable,people would not care about the spying program,they only care about the economy which they have no idea what's that about,riots only start when people suffered,people who trust the government stay the same, the Homeland ratings are good I think, no one would question,that is why it's a card that the Government could put out any day now to distract the public
4:the spying news already spread like for a decade,I doubt any opposition could stop the spying
5: all news vanished in ALL media, in drudgereport,in infowars,lamestream, I don't see what this snowden is news to me,they already spy on everyone before the new broke out and I knew it,it's a greatest distraction of all time because even the opposition is distracted now
for the people who say that oh the establishment is attacking snowden,therefore he must be right, that's not the case,it does not matter that if he's potrayed as good guy/bad guy now,attention is all they need
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 27, 2013 17:38:51 GMT -5
Reminds me of the "Wizard of OZ", would the world know this all mighty and powerful wizard existed, if Dorothy did not pull "the curtain open?"
Or maybe Dorothy made "deal" with wizard or some other in the new revised version? Where the "Wizard Existed" but the curtain wasn't really pulled back to expose the levers, buttons, and simulators used for magic and illusions.
Does anyone have this new script for review?
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 27, 2013 18:19:21 GMT -5
Wait one moment, I discovered some old pages,
And script stated, as OZ presented them,
“I am the GREAT and POWERFUL OZ”, fire, fire, smoke, smoke, “You must be connected to me, pause, for my protection”, fire, fire, smoke, smoke, “You must SERVE the OZ, or surfer with all those unconnected”, fire, fire, smoke, smoke, boom, pause, bang.
Then suddenly, the large and frightening picture of OZ disappeared without moments notice. Special Note: An electrical breaker was thrown open, “Back stage”,
And thereafter servant of OZ slowly walked forward and said, “The great OZ often disappears without moments notice, when angry, please wait one moment, or so.
Or touch (1) for customer service (2) for payments and billing, (3) for customer complaints, and so forth.
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Post by firecracker on Jun 27, 2013 19:00:46 GMT -5
Okay, so following this diversion into The Wizard of Oz (notice any similarities to the diversion Snowden has created?).
First conclusion, in order for the wizard to have any power, we must participate, otherwise the wizard is powerless.
Second, the wizard maintains his power by threats of fear or, in the early stages, occasionally, the illusion of great power or wealth.
Third, just as in the REAL story, the story is constantly diverted away from its original intent...to maintain the cover.
Fourth, in this real life analogy, please be warned that until sufficient people stand up and stop playing along, the Wizard kills. Not my idea of a fairy tale ending.
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 27, 2013 20:51:09 GMT -5
But the “puppets” do not exist until all strings are attached, or else the “puppet master” has limited control. The strings of today’s “wizard” are not physical, as they do not move physical things, but manipulate the “mind” to move such things.
Dependency is of human nature, one dependent on another and another. However, such ideals can be redirected, so as “dependency” becomes the illusion for which the “Wizard of OZ” exist. And this corresponds to the “connectivity”, and NOT strings controlling parts of past times, but strings used to manipulate the minds of present times. Less dependency for this, or else observing such things in other ways may help solve problems.
Because the information presented by “The servants of OZ”, can be examined for value and interpretation. Are you interested in the illusion of OZ, or the center for which this illusion manifest?
Information prepared and distributed to "illuminate this illusion" can be examined in other ways.
And what of the "land of OZ", was it a prison?
For which the “manager” had prisoners who were supervisors of the guards, who were prisoners, who guarded the prisoners, for which the “manager” was the prisoner of the "Great OZ".
Until the above is understood, the "Land of OZ" exist, and so does the "Great Wizard of OZ".
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Post by firecracker on Jun 27, 2013 21:04:05 GMT -5
The land of Oz was a prison of the mind. Who would be interested in the illusion of Oz? If we are awake, we know it is all around us. The center, the core, that's the part to pursue. But what good does it do to pursue this when all around beg to be dependent?
The dependency of humans. I haven't thought about this lately. But by separating one from the other and another via virtual games/cell phones/special interests, etc....hasn't the "wizard" taken from humanity the support it so desires and given it back an evil twin? If we were one with another instead of one in conflict with another, there would be no place in this universe for the wizard. He would be laughed out of story town.
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 27, 2013 21:10:25 GMT -5
Bravo.
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 27, 2013 23:17:18 GMT -5
Last Chapter:
Would this wizard use this “connectivity power” to absorb all knowledge from the peoples of OZ? Can they be powerful “Wizard” without their magic, the creativity and knowledge of all as extracted through such connectivity?
Then what of the future,
If many pursue, or otherwise forced into such dependency, do they become less creative, less rational, because the wizard “knows all” before they can present such things? The wizard may understand the power achieved by extracting such knowledge from many peoples, very quickly. But thereafter, the need for such “Land of OZ” would only require puppets, for making widgets of some sort to power the machines of this land.
While other connectivity maybe used for absorbing knowledge through special interactive algorithms, and such may create artificial intelligence. And thereafter, maybe other “things” are created to replace these peoples of OZ, for such other things do not think and require less attention, only to produce. Later in time, will the peoples of OZ exist?
At later time, they may know.
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Post by somersdave on Jun 28, 2013 13:27:35 GMT -5
I wonder if people realize that the "Wizard of Oz" was written as an allegory about the money system and that libertarian Bill Still made a documentary on the story? Here's Bill's award winning docu. (The Secret of Oz) about the story: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qIhDdST27gHis other major work "The Money Masters" is also a very good (even longer) parallel piece. (I shouldn't be recommending them on a US site as my country is the 'villain' in much of the story but I'll offer the excuse that it was them wicked R*s (you can guess - I couldn't afford a law suit) who got control in 1815 (and other banksters), as the Money Masters will reveal who were behind most of it.) IMO the City of London has done most natives more harm than good. |
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Post by firecracker on Jun 28, 2013 13:36:47 GMT -5
Yes, Bill Still videos are excellent. And yes, the original story was 'scrubbed' of its original intent. Kind of like missing pieces here on this forum. Someone or something had an interest in deflecting the OZ allegory and someone or something has an interest in stilting communications here. Good post, highly recommend these films you have posted!
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Post by firecracker on Jun 28, 2013 13:44:13 GMT -5
re: Last Chapter....yes, we know the answers to these things. But one thought....they may know? I would guess....NO! They will never have the courage or knowledge to see their enemy. Eyes wide shut!
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Post by topwrench on Jun 28, 2013 20:39:18 GMT -5
On June 13th an attempted Kerry-Hague coupe took place in Washington when Kerry insisted on increasing military action in Syria. Obama resisted with General Dempsey's backing. Kerry was defeated but Obama conceded under pressure from Bill Clinton, to supply small arms to Syria that we all heard announced. ALL DETAILS ARE AVAILABLE IN WEBSTER TARPLEY'S "SNOWDEN SNOWJOB" YouTube video.
I believe this may be the reason behind precipitating the Bank for International Settlements demands to end "Quantitative Easing". Failing to initiate war eliminated efforts to keep the financial ponzi scheme going which would've generated more profit, the banker's favorite way to generate massive income. Additionally preventing the potential for thermo nuclear war and the genocide that would follow, Tarpley credits Obama for avoiding the first of several hurdles or significant dangers the world is facing.
According to reports from the LaRouch pac, The Trans-Atlantic Financial Elite now intend to impose worthless Trans-Atlantic debt on the United States. Stating that national constitutions are getting in the way of "financial unification" B.I.S. is demanding the imposition of AUSTERITY by U.S. government, which would likely cause a financial crises, possibly leading to the collapse of the dollar. The civil unrest that would likely follow, enabling the declaration of Martial Law which suspends the U.S. Constitution.
The only thing that can stop this is the immediate re-institution of Glass-Stegall, which is now being discussed. For more information view the most recent efforts of the LaRouche organization (featured on YouTube) in Washington within the last few days calling for an immediate vote on the Glass-Stegall Act. Unfortunately, our illustrious legislative branch doesn't seem to comprehend the consequences that will follow if they fail to stop the banks before they enjoy their end run, ...the destruction of the U.S economy.
This was all taking place while we were distracted with the Snowden revelations.
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 29, 2013 0:40:01 GMT -5
somersdave,
I agree with you,
The three major components of the 'Wizards magic. And would only function as 'one' if they were integrated together, else the illusion would be, as said an (illusion).
1. Money - Influence
2. MIC - Machine
3. Eyes - obvious
If all three were 'integrated as one, then we would have serious problems. But don't believe this is presently true.....yet.
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 29, 2013 0:43:06 GMT -5
The point somersdave, it's more then one country.
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