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Post by Tony Wicher on Apr 20, 2013 10:27:47 GMT -5
Here is my current best guess as to how this was done. If you listen to the CNN interview of Piers Morgan talking to the mother of the bombers, she is saying that the FBI had been “counselling” him for 5 years, ever since he became involved with “religious politics”. So this went down just like the 7/7 London bombings. The older brother was targeted to begin with because of his Chechen origen. He was recruited by the FBI as an informant, and sent to Chechnya to be “sheep dipped”, that is to establish his connection with “terrorists” in Chechnya. At this point he was ready to be used as a patsy. He was told that he would be able to help by assisting in a counter-terrorist “drill” that was going to be held during the Boston marathon. The drill was being carried out by Craft International. Craft has a hat with a skull on it and the motto “No matter what your mother told you, violence does solve problems”. Look up Craft International on the Net. Several of these Craft operatives may be seen standing around in many videos of the event. They all wore the same khaki pants and dark jackets and carried backpacks. The patsy was given an identical backpack containing what he thought was a fake pressure cooker bomb and told to place it somewhere as part of the drill. He must have been the most surprised person there when it actually went off. This is exactly the way the 7/7 bombing worked, where the young Muslims were asked to participate in a “drill” that went live with real bombs. It’s similar also to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. It is a standard FBI technnique.
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Post by firecracker on Apr 20, 2013 11:17:30 GMT -5
Your post sounds plausible. Why was Craft Int. member using a radiation detector? Seen in pics posted by Infowars and others? And why the highly unusual tactics used in Boston yesterday?
And do you believe this incident is closed, or do you share my concern that it is only the prelude to a larger incident? And do you have any thoughts on Chris Kyle's untimely death?
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Post by tonywicher on Apr 20, 2013 11:48:59 GMT -5
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Post by tonywicher on Apr 20, 2013 12:03:16 GMT -5
This event is definitely part of a much larger picture. It is part of the movement toward a fascist police state at home that goes with the drive for war. Our government has been hijacked by an international oligarchy. The driving force behind the increasing violence is the collapse of the trans-Atlantic financial system that is ongoing. The oligarchy has no answer to this failure of their financial system but fascism and war. This is part of an ongoing "strategy of tension" using manufactured terrorist incidents to justify imposition of martial law.
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Post by tonywicher on Apr 20, 2013 12:09:49 GMT -5
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Post by firecracker on Apr 20, 2013 13:54:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the links.
Why the Boston Marathon....just a convenient target? A certain date?
And, since the Sandy Hook parents were invited and prominent...I'm curious what if any connection there is to Sandy Hook and possibly the Dark Knight. I heard a caller yesterday on infowars mention that the one suspect's name is pronounced very similarly to Joker. Another curiosity. The little weird tidbits are certainly stacking up.
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Post by somersdave on Apr 20, 2013 16:15:41 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one has posted Dr. P's Interview with Alex J. which - despite many people's dismissal of Alex - I think is one of the best, most informative, alternative media offerings I've heard. It certainly paints the bigger picture which relates to the misdeeds of the recent administrations. After listening to mainstream reporting, it must be like being in a ||lel universe where all the phony facades have been rendered transparent but from which I sincerely hope ripples will disturb the smug political establishment this side of the Atlantic. We already have suspicions that more than show biz people are connected to Savile - which some suspect accounts for 'leaders' acting against national interests (ie: blackmail). Criminal behaviour relating the plethora of wars initiated in recent years, 'terrorist' activity and convenient sudden deaths deserve much closer examination. www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUT4PU5tzmI |
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Post by K on Apr 20, 2013 18:28:34 GMT -5
I harbored some hope that people in America were actually starting to wake up to the evil deeds of the tyrants that infiltrated our goverment.... until I watched the cheering Bostonian mobs last night as they cheered their captors, at that point I turned off the tv and puked  |
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Post by firecracker on Apr 20, 2013 21:28:49 GMT -5
The public is so willfully ignorant, it boggles my mind. They simply repeat whatever their favorite flavor of presstitute media tells them. Working within the democratic end of our Republic will not give us results. Too many people on the other side of the seesaw. So we have to have a smarter plan, and as another post says, the plan may be to survive the cataclysm and rebuild without all that dead weight on the other side. Did any of us baby boomers ever believe we were going to be facing our current situation? Noooo! sigh! Not sure about other people's friends and acquaintances, but mine seem to have a glass-half-full affliction! Not sure what they're going to do when the glass shatters and they're standing there with wet shoes.
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Post by nmpatriot on Apr 20, 2013 22:05:59 GMT -5
well said,,,
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Post by topwrench on Apr 21, 2013 11:11:57 GMT -5
I, too, found it difficult to understand how so many intelligent people refuse to consider or discuss anything other than the MSM propaganda. When asked, replies have included versions of: 'I don't want to hear it because I can't function on a daily basis, with awareness that my life, my military service, and everything I've worked for was all for nothing!
...Other explanations have included "fear" that surveillance will make them a target, with the extensive homeland security parameters regarding who classifies as a terrorist.
Most often, there's the overwhelming feeling of helplessness against all 3 branches that now compose our government.
Courts, including the SCOTUS have refused to consider or rule on the overwhelming evidence that the president is not legitimate. Even the president's lawyers have admitted that the birth certificate posted on the net was fraudulent under threat of perjury as officers of the court. So the resounding question is what can be accomplished and how.
In closing, currently there is no clear path toward impeachment or action taken against the now "indisputable evidence" of war crimes reported in the bi-partisan panel conclusions. The president simply dissed the report!
One has to wonder with so little reaction in all sectors of government, whether the majority of elected and appointed officials are not being blackmailed or in fear of their lives, should they take action. Whistle blowers are targets. The CIA is not accountable to/for anything. The U.N. is nothing but a "Trojan Horse" composed of the world's most diabolical dictators and violators of human rights.
Since the constitution provides the chain of command responsible to act on impeachment, beginning with the V.P, then the cabinet, etc., it appears that we're down to the last alternative, "The military". However, there are no indications of whether the U.S. military will defend "liberty and justice for all" or whether they will follow orders using armed drones, microwave and laser technology against American citizens.
Mind control research was announced as a priority by the president recently. There are reports that citizens who have aggressively approached government, that are now experiencing retribution in the form of electromagnetic energy being directed at them. Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theories" has a very informative episode, with verification that such gov't capabilities are already in place, using the top portion of cell phone towers that ordinarily wouldn't be questioned. The developer of the technology is interviewed and states that he wasn't aware that it would be used to further the efforts of the "dark side"and expresses his regret stating that it is "too late". The system is already up and running and it can't be stopped.
Whether theory or not, the FEAR instilled by the president's EOs claiming the authority to kill anyone he chooses worldwide, with immunity and no oversight, already acting on his threats, on American citizens makes him a murderer! Claiming the authority to retain prisoners in Guantanamo indefinitely, who have been cleared of all charges. Recently engaging in a "hunger strike", innocent prisoners are being force fed with tubes down their throat or inserted in their stomachs while restrained for hours during the process. What possible good could such barbarism serve? Are we ruled by mad men? If so, since nothing is done to stop the insanity, with no clear path to follow, the response is either fear or indifference to avoid consequences that so many "whistle blowers" seem to have incurred.
The "false flag" terrorism disguised by propaganda is evidence that the U.S. government has the ability, the will and the power to continue to kill anyone, anywhere, with no ethics, conscience or regard for human life. Who wouldn't be afraid of that?
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Post by firecracker on Apr 21, 2013 12:35:40 GMT -5
All of those things, Topwrench are good points. We are living in a fascinating, devastating and complicated era. Likely the truth of what is actually happening will not filter out until after I am gone.
The pattern in the past has been to keep things under wraps for a generation or two or three, when the new generation really doesn't care and the criminals have lived their lives freely, and the dying try to salvage their souls by death bed confessions.
To focus on the culprits in our society and our government, I like to keep it simple. To me, it boils down to two things:
Narcissism & Money
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Post by kenny02 on Apr 21, 2013 14:45:55 GMT -5
Definitely a false flag. A friend of mine in NORAD clued me in years ago regarding drills, active operations, and mass confusion of facts. As was 911. Used as a diversionary tactic for an "agenda" political or otherwise. Probably not the preferred end story for those involved but a diversion non the less.
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Post by ohbrother on Apr 22, 2013 0:46:04 GMT -5
I'm an old man now and let me tell you something that has been overlooked by those who preach taking back our nation from the scum that now owns us.
I have watched for several decades now as the mindset of our youth has been changed by propaganda from our government. They did this through our learning institutions, through media, through social conditioning techniques and more.
This coming war will not be fought between Patriots and the Government, it will be fought between the new age Americans and the Patriots.
I also see that most people miss this important point; Government worked hard and long to breed an American population that would one day support the Governments takeover of the people, we are now facing the beginning of this takeover.
The US Government is not stupid, they changed the way Americans think long before they made their final power grab.
Alex Jones showed the smug faces of the young Officers in his video of the Boston Bombing. He commented on the fact that they resembled the young soldiers in Germany. He's right, the youth in Germany went through the same conditioning ours in America have been put through for several decades now.
To the author of this site, Steve, the path to freedom is not one that leads straight to the crooked and corrupt leaders, no, the path to freedom will have to be one that is covered with the American people who support the Government.
The path I walk gives me the opportunity to witness just how many Americans do not think like Patriots, it is a large number.
The greatest mistake made by the Patriots is the fact that they waited way too long to stand. The other mistake made by Patriots today is thinking that most of the Patriots will come together when they are needed. Most will not, they will continue to do what they have done for decades, talk!
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Post by firecracker on Apr 22, 2013 7:57:54 GMT -5
Your points are well taken. I mentioned the other side of the seesaw. Some of those on the other side are our sons and daughters.
The indoctrination started in the 60's, so those who are now baby boomers and retirees were lured into financial and mind traps. Now, many are suffering the maladies of old age with depleted bank accounts.
Society is filled with repeaters. Teachers, TV, social media, public at the local watering hole. And those who are evil but not stupid have successfully crafted the rhetoric in bits that are easily repeated.
So is all lost? Given what we know, do we just ride it out and hope we will not suffer the results of tyranny and death panels? Is there a way through this maze of cunning and deception and traps? And if there is a way, after we sacrifice, will it be for naught? Will those who come behind us throw it all away for empty promises? These are the questions with which we struggle.
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