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Post by firecracker on Jun 29, 2013 20:32:17 GMT -5
Listening to Sarah Palin's 2013 NRA speech, she asks the question, "what must we do to create a society of people capable of living in freedom." Good question. Now let's explore the opposite. What would we do if we wanted to create a society of people INCAPABLE of living in freedom. Here's the speech: www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=7xILPyOUs3Y
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 30, 2013 17:41:56 GMT -5
Freedom of speech is important, as is “fear” to speak.
In the late 1990’s consulted with Professor of Economics from American University, the both of us had good salaries. In fact, I took some time off and could have traveled anywhere in the world, to the finest hotels and restaurants one can imagine. But monies have no meaning unless you contribute to others, and why the professor and I, developed some presentations for gathering in Washington DC and later trip to this East African country. He was native to this country and trying to help after years of military dictatorship. So we met with many in DC, and later abroad, governors, international attorney, and others. As we drove down the roads of this country, he would often say, “Do you see these children in the street, they should be in school”. Something not necessary when military regimes are in control. Our task was to create some proposals for World Bank projects, but to make this story short.
I visited school, where children were working on computers, and very excited about the new prospects of their future. And decided, I did not wish to talk about software or computers, but wanted them to speak. I wanted to know what they wished in their future, and this was became my learning process.
I wondered, How important is freedom of speech, and wondered would they have spoken if they “feared” to speak?
Likely not related, but never fear to contribute where so many wish to remain silent. Communication is important, whether you agree or disagree.
And late during our first trip our car was ambushed by group with AK47s on road outside the city, but this did not stop our second trip.
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Post by firecracker on Jun 30, 2013 21:15:07 GMT -5
Your statement about schooling not needed in a military regime. Well, we just have a slightly different twist on that here in the U.S. The kids go to school for 'babysitting' while the parents work. They are taught warped history, upside down reading (large percentage cannot read when they graduate high school) and how to cheer on their school sports teams. School Spirit. Kind of like Waving the flag and have pride in your country. Rah, rah.... I can't help but think that given the chance, the kids in the poor African countries would be motivated to achieve more greatness than our coddled American kids. Adversity can prove a catalyst for greatness. Good for you...whatever happened with World Bank grant? And as an aside. How were the kids using computers. I thought most African countries only had electricity for a few hours a day and I wonder were they connected to the internet?
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 30, 2013 21:49:04 GMT -5
Made mistake, West Africa Nigeria
A small school was setup by some people trying to make effort to help, computers and software ages 8-12. In another area was invited with governor and special group for presentation of school for disadvantaged children.
These are my favorite projects whether in US or anywhere around the world. During this time was mainly working with professor so that other businesses would be welcome to country and evaluate situation. The first trip was dangerous, but met with many people, leaders, and governors. The second trip was better, and also met executive from Motorola and others, we had meeting with governor in Abia. Where this governor was working hard for his people. My job was to prepare proposal drafts that World Bank Official, present, could approve for presenting ideals to fund educational programs. I have prepared proposals for large projects.
There’s always some deception on whose really running countries, so let’s leave this subject matter there. And often this deception fragments peoples, and often intentionally and affects commerce as well, and completely different subject matter.
I know we have problems in our country, but will not solve if presented with one problem after another, and another, so we never focus on anything.
When the stimulus was presented in 2009, I though what a wonderful idea it would be for experienced and older adults, to help younger peoples out of school prepare business plans for grants, and help them start new businesses and companies with global markets.
What wonderful idea this would have been.
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Post by firecracker on Jun 30, 2013 22:06:13 GMT -5
Isn't that the plan. Present the population with one problem after another after another. Crisis following crisis...until they can't focus on anything but mundane day to day activities. I think that plan has been working very well to destroy America. So many things could have been done with the 'stimulus' but we have to remember it wasn't to stimulate anything...it was to give money to the banks and favorites whose greed and incompetence created the crisis. Of course, it's only incompetence if you believe they didn't want the outcome they got. I, on the other hand, happen to believe they manufactured the crisis and got the intended result.
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 30, 2013 22:28:00 GMT -5
My simple assessment of Nigeria, probably wrong
Most peoples in countries welcome those from abroad and often quite kind and sincere, as in this country abroad.
But maybe this happened; slowly the peoples were fragmented by some who wished to consume their resources with high profit margins. And to do so effectively, they created and funded military regime. This regime further fragmented the peoples, and sometimes with the use of brut force. The infrastructure started to get worse, many children not attending school because they had to work just so their families had food. Their labors were directed to the military regime, now the leaders within this phony military regime were paid well, and wired their monies to offshore accounts. In time, the peoples started to rebel against this regime, because they understood this fragmentation, and likewise their quality of life poor. And finally they succeeded, and attempted to elect president and vote.
Thereafter, many new governors would spend much time trying to recover the monies stolen from their country and send to offshore accounts.
Did they really succeed, I hope so.
But this also rings bell.
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Post by firecracker on Jun 30, 2013 22:56:29 GMT -5
Well, then you have Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and other places where we learn, if we choose to learn, how the world works in reality. It is a tiny fraction of the life we were supposed to live. The promise of humanity has been stolen by those with only broken promises. Dr. Benjamin Carson saved my cousin's son. He was born with an 'inoperable' brain tumor. Today, he is a father with beautiful family of his own. 'prism' fractures light....Prism fractures humanity.
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 30, 2013 23:11:09 GMT -5
Confessions of Economic Hitman, NO.
You go to the countries and you learn from the peoples, the hitman hide.
Rings a bell, refers to our situation.
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Post by Jmindless on Jun 30, 2013 23:19:14 GMT -5
But then that's what people do, they point the finger in the wrong direction. It's called fragmentation, they need someone to blame, so it's easiest to blame the people trying to help.
It's a game.
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Post by firecracker on Jul 1, 2013 9:03:17 GMT -5
I was referring to John Perkins book, "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" where he details how he was supposed to offer two options to newly elected leaders in 3rd world countries. On one hand, millions of dollars for you but you do what we say. In the other hand, death. And then, if the leader was honest and really working for the people, they sent in the jackals to assassinate him or her. He worked for a corporation also. Are you saying this is not how it really works? I was NOT referring to you.
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Post by Jmindless on Jul 1, 2013 10:35:32 GMT -5
I apologize for the misunderstanding,
I’m not certain of the “Economic Hitman” principle, maybe it’s true? But can only discuss subject matter based on assessment. And this simply means, working with the people after they overthrow dictatorship.
My assessment is based on speaking with peoples, leaders, and newly elected officials, also with International Attorneys who oversee new processes but into place. Many states in this country
So, why would military leaders of such dictatorship send large amounts of monies to offshore accounts? Because if all goes wrong they can depart, and maybe this means the intention was as stated below.
Now, if they had any concern for the country and peoples, why would they wire large monies offshore?
When such monies can easily be invested into the country, where profits can be made by starting companies and other such activity. In this way, they gain support from the peoples through business activities. However, the opposite is strange way of thinking, unless of course the investment is not to be made inward. Which simply means, their objective was not investing into the country, and not creating good middle income wages?
Maybe, These leaders were placed into power for purposes of limiting the peoples’ ability to make decisions about their country and resources. Speaking with some leaders and newly elected governors, during the struggle in some cases were discovered ‘large’ sums of monies in crates in military leader’s basement of home, in other cases information disclosing large offshore accounts. Some flights were made and noted the infrastructure damage would limit flights into country and other such things.
Another conclusion we noticed and tried to help them overcome, were phobia about peoples coming into country “business people”. Such phobia was clearly created by the military dictatorship as to limit the commerce through them, whereas open markets are more prosperous for peoples.
There were many indicators.
Maybe the "Economic Hitman" was the one who had our car ambushed on the way to airport, for our trip back to the US.
Our projects were focused on infrastructure, working with governors.
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Post by firecracker on Jul 1, 2013 14:47:10 GMT -5
Must listen to today's Alex Jones show first hour. Monday July 1st. Mike Adams interviewing a man who was an American living in Ecuador and was ILLEGALLY kidnapped by the USG! Exposes the fact that our government is harassing and kidnapping citizens living abroad. Unbelievable! Verifies some of the things on this thread that have been discussed. www.infowars.com
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Post by topwrench on Jul 2, 2013 16:01:41 GMT -5
Firecracker...Suggest you check out Charlotte Iserbyt. Her father was Skull & Bones in the early 1900s. When he passed away she had rare access to inside info left behind. Our education system is greatly influenced and controlled by the power broker membership of Skull &Bones ...Also...info on the Rhodes' family's vast wealth originally acquired in Africa, and the influence of the Rhodes estate (Rhodes left 7 Wills, with instructions for disbursement). You may have heard of Rhodes Scholars...Bill Clinton, Rachel Maddow...only the brightest get the scholarships...It is not commonly known that Rhodes was a staunch supporter of English superiority ...and defender of all things England. Rhodes educators continue the legacy... Bill Clinton has often referred to a favorite mentor of his at Rhodes..."Carol Quigley". Famously remembered for disclosing that presidential leadership in the U.S. has always been pre-determined and controlled, Quigley is an example of the educators at Rhodes.
Most influential and powerful U.S. political & corporate leaders are garnered from Skull &Bones membership and/or Rhodes graduates...with CFR, Tri-Lateral Commission, etc. ..membership as an unspecified pre-requisite to advancement or "success"... As the influence and control of CFR founder, David Rockerfeller, has spread the family wealth like a giant octopus throughout the nation. David Rockerfeller's autobiography includes a famous arrogant statement in which he admits that he and his family have always acted & worked AGAINST the interests of the United States.
John D. Rockerfeller, the first, was financed by the Rothchild's which is how that influence is maintained in all aspects of American life. You would be amazed to learn how much American money contributed to charities, institutions and organizations like the American Cancer Society are secretly funneled back to the Rockerfeller family and those closely associated with them. The lucrative financial gain doled out through those ties maintains an impenetrable loyalty factor. Eustace Mullins' with his inherent disdain for the Rockerfeller family had the ability to expose many of the abhorent ways they extracted the wealth of America using subversive control, masked as philanthropy.
IMHO...David Rockerfeller has been behind the formation of the NWO, planning and plotting to destroy and/or control whatever is left after the imminent debauchery we face, every step of the way. You have to wonder if the "in-breeding" hasn't produced the insanity and evil that drives such need for control of the planet. If an anti-Christ exists on this earth, he'd qualify for the role.
Corporate control of the news media and the propaganda dispersed was acknowledged by Rockerfeller at a CFR luncheon caught on video as he expressed his gratitude for their cooperation. Before the internet, the patriotism and trust in American government left no room for suspicion of anything reported on MSM. During that time, the growth of power and wealth was promoted as a reason for pride in our country. It was only when American middle class wealth enabled by the power of unions began to limit corporate profits that it became a problem. Combined with the corruption in government, it led to the trade agreements and media propaganda which promoted them as great opportunities to open up markets for American manufactured goods. In reality, those trade agreements opened the door through which American manufacturers escaped to foreign countries, taking American jobs with them.
Slowly but progressively while the middle class was intentionally coaxed into debt bondage by the Federal Reserve's unjustified low interest rates, and intentional easing of regulation, the place where most Americans maintained their wealth, the equity in their homes, was depleted under a false sense of security that was traditionally held in real estate value.
All of this was based on the necessity to undermine American middle class wealth in order to undermine any power to question or resist the surrender of American Sovereignty. Had the media not pledged their cooperation in covering up what was being done to destroy the country, public knowledge would've enabled traditional resistance to corruption to fight back. Rockerfeller's expressed gratitude verified that the media and its willful dispensing of propaganda is responsible for the fall of America.
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Post by firecracker on Jul 2, 2013 19:34:02 GMT -5
Thanks, Topwrench. I highly agree with your info on Charlotte, I'm a big fan of hers. Mullins I am not familiar with, must research that. Alex went over who is funding the NWO today in the radio show. Rockefeller and British Petroleum owned by the queen of England. BP, hmmmm, an accident that fouls the coast and water in the Gulf and poisons the seafood. I wonder what ELSE went on during that 'disaster'? For others reading this thread. I concur with Topwrench. Research these issues and listen to Iserbyt's interviews on www.infowars.com or youtube. When you research this, you will realize that a society that cannot live in freedom has been intentionally created.
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Post by Jmindless on Jul 2, 2013 20:03:14 GMT -5
Do you wish to travel further down the yellow brick road?
One more time.
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