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Post by brianroy on Feb 16, 2014 21:35:48 GMT -5
I caught the Phone Interview on the Alex Jones Nightly News Thursday and Friday, February 13-14, 2014. In regard to Edward Snowden, I am curious as to the possibility that the reason why he was never picked up in Hong Kong or anywhere else, is because of the intent of John Brennan to intentionally release this NSA capabilities information for his and Booz Allen Hamilton's aka, The Carlyle Group's www.carlyle.com/our-business/portfolio-of-investments/booz-allen-hamilton-inc financial gain, and because Brennan himself views himself as not just an Islamist convert, but a jihadi Muslim at war with the United States. Obama himself -- who I confronted in the summer of 1981 when he sought out and was interviewed by Bill Ayers, Ayers saying in his interview of Obama that he (Ayers) was the representative of the Central Committee and was seeking 5 - 6 candidates to groom to be President of the United States in 25 or 30 years, or words to this effect -- Obama himself, attended Shia Islam's Jihadi initiation self-whipping rituals in Hyderabad, India in 1981. Obama is NO patriot to the United States, and at the interview he had at a restaurant table next to my restaurant booth, pledge the utter destruction of the United States from within as both he and Ayers had a verbal peeing contest to see who was the more devout "Marxist-Leninist", which was what Barack defined himself as at that meeting that I and another eyewitness at the booth saw and heard (Ayers being about 4 to perhaps 5 feet on my 9 o'clock left position, and Obama being about 6 to perhaps no more than 7 feet on my 11 o'clock left position, or something to this effect.
It has been credibly charged, though not as yet sufficiently substantiated, that John Brennan the man who successfully conducted an espionage operation within the U.S. Department of State to steal and possibly destroy Obama’s passport file records appears to have done so, in part, because he was a convert to Islam. www.wnd.com/2013/02/shock-claim-obama-picks-muslim-for-cia-chief/
Brennan's Involvement in Espionage Against The U.S. Department of State in February to March 2008 Creates Precedent For Credibility Of The Alleged Ed Snowden NSA Document Dump Leak / No Arrest Or Capture Order
In February of 2010, Skynews US correspondent Greg Milam put forth a soon to fail Propaganda Lie to cover Obama's Passport and Department of State files theft and/or destruction...making the false claim that a fire in Hawaii destroyed the Obama birth records at the Department of Health. news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Obama-Birther-Row-Resurfaces-As-US-Prepares-For-Crucial-Mid-Term-Elections/Article/201002415560734?lpos=World_News_Third_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15560734_Obama_Birther_Row_Resurfaces_As_US_Prepares_For_Crucial_Mid-Term_Elections
Clearly, this was a fabricated claim. Skynews and Milam were unable to name the time, date, address, and named location of the fire that destroyed the alleged birth records,
cite past articles, tell us how many alleged records were destroyed by fire or water, give at the time DOH or Fire Department official quotations regarding the alleged fire and so on. And despite this alleged fire, and the later reports of a fruitless search of the Birth Records to find any Obama birth document in January 2011 which forced the resignation of Hawaii Governor Abercrombie’s first Director of Health in Hawaii, Neal Palafox (after only 3 weeks in office), who accidentally allowed the fact that there was NO Barack Hussein Obama II birth document in existence in the State of Hawaii archives appeared to have no bearing on the delusions of a willing media to NOT question a clearly manufactured fraud the White House “magically” released as if out of thin air just 3 months later via a clearly manufactured electronic file, attested to by attorneys and officials willing to commit perjury, just so long as it wasn’t under oath in a Court of Law, which to this day they still refuse to ever introduce into Court Evidence of ANY United States Court of Law.
However, unlike Hawaii, in early 2008, there were indeed Obama passport records in the US Department of State that were indeed compromised by John Brennan's private sector employees. The question is, what those documents were specifically, and what did they contain that needed a Federal Theft and likely two murders by parties unknown? Did they contain documentation of Obama’s Indonesian and United Kingdom citizenships and use of those foreign passports into the 1980s, and a still current use of an Indonesian Passport as late as 2006 to the Continent of Africa?
After this very specific and isolated theft of Obama’s Department of State records, we are told to believe the obvious fairy-tale that it was without ANY quid pro quo or coincidence -- wink, wink; nudge, nudge -- that John Brennan was appointed to Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Adviser for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism on January 20, 2009...the same day Obama Usurped the US Presidency by virtue of his NOT being a United States Natural Born Citizen as the U.S. Constitution requires.
I personally believe it was NO COINCIDENCE!!!
THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE PRE-2008 RECORDS OF OBAMA WERE REPORTED AS HAVING GONE MISSING, AND WERE CLEARLY & SUSPICIOUSLY AT LEAST THE VERY APPEARANCE
OF A QUID PRO QUO LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE CHIEF COUNTER-TERRORISM LIAISON, JOHN BRENNAN
Roll your News Media sources back in time and notice that the Department of State was rocked by a scandal in the first 3 months of 2008. Instead of just "looking at" the "passport data" of Barack Obama only, the files regarding Barack Obama allegedly went missing in March of 2008, and there has been a virtual blackout on the news data since.
We know the factual data that pro-Obama private contractors breached State Department security on
January 9,
February 21
and March 14 of 2008,
www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/20/obama.passport/index.html [1]
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/20/AR2008032003422.html before a final theft of all Obama’s documents was “alleged” to have happened by pro-Obama supporters on a date of either March 21, or March 26, 2008.
The CEO of Analysis Corp., the primary Passport breaching firm was John Brennan.
CNN reported:
www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/22/passport.files/index.html
"the three contract employees worked in three offices in the Washington area. One office does consular work and visas on evenings,
holidays, weekends and overnights; another office issues passports; the third office scans and files materials."
The likely suspect of the theft of the Obama Department of State files and passports, was the Analysis Corp. employee, "who has "extensive" experience...and has always worked under a State Department contract."
Again, in a flagrantly apparent / obvious / in-your-face Quid Pro Quo for stealing the Obama documents, the pro-Muslim Brennan who has publicly called Jerusalem "Al Quds", something only Muslims do when in America, www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCzpE4KCJ1o was made chief counter-terrorism expert at the White House on the same day Obama usurped the US Presidency and was conveniently given "an ethics waiver." www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2009/12/white-house-grants-ethics-waiver-to-john-brennan/32798/
One of the other two who breached Department of State security, and was aware of what was in the Obama documents that were on file,
was a 24 year old male who worked for Stanley Inc.; and was not long after shot dead in 2008 while allegedly “cooperating with authorities” over this very issue, and the telling of what data was in the lost files that someone else had allegedly taken. www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/ atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/02/john-brennan-involved-in-obama-passport-breach.html
World Net Daily reported that: Obama's files reportedly contained copies of passport applications, birth date, basic biographical information, records of passport renewal and possibly citizenship information. www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=100613
So the point is, if John Brennan blackmailed or got Quid Pro Quo into the high Intelligence position that he has by alleged espionage against the U.S. Department of State as a Muslim perhaps working at the behest of Saudi Arabia and other foreign Islamic interests to help Obama against Hillary Clinton and in his aspirations to the Presidency, what would stop John Brennan in getting a multi-million dollar offshore account from the Carlyle Group via Booz Allen Hamilton, or because of his Booz Allen Hamilton connections, and cutting in James Clapper to such a pay-off for a domestic act of espionage that Brennan and Clapper only pretend to be infuriated at, while committing Treason against the United States, allegedly also receiving a pay-off, working for specific foreign interests on the pretext of devotion to Islam over all U.S. National Security Interests, and then ensuring Edward Snowden is never arrested or picked up (by means of verbal directives to the various 15 or 16 Intel Agencies they have personal and business connections with via their Obama appointed positions)?
That's how I see all this NSA data dump release, and it fits a pattern, starting with an Obama Administration ordered CIA video dump in March 2009 and then the Wikileaks data dump scandal, etc.
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[1] Interestingly, we learn from the Media the oft swept under the rug (as it were) data that pro Bill Clinton saboteurs in the 1992 election cycle also stole and destroyed his late 60s to 70s passport files, so the tactic of Passport File destruction on behalf of a Liberal Democrat in order to get them elected and destroy likely scandalous documentation, has successfully been done before (to at least, in Clinton's case, cover a prior "appearance of complicity" regarding Bill Clinton).
It appears that zealots for Clinton had...by example, destroyed select pages of the Department of State files regarding Bill Clinton over his alleged questionable years in the 1960s into the 1970s. Perhaps in relation to his previously alleged Pro-Communist Soviet Anti-American and Pro-Communist Anti-American Czechoslavakian visits during this same period? Quite possibly.
But as regards Obama, Brennan's employee likely brought Brennan the entire Obama files, so that either Brennan still has access to such scandalous material and the ability to blackmail Obama, or he could have destroyed the same. .
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Post by firecracker on Feb 16, 2014 22:30:45 GMT -5
Brianroy, a question. Max Keiser and others have suggested that the NSA spying has more to do with industrial and financial espionage than terrorism. You comment that the Snowden escapade may be financially beneficial for Booz Allen or Carlyle Group. How does disclosure of the spying and surveillance advance their financial interests? I would have thought if the surveillance is to front run business deals, secrecy would be preferred. Is it possible, that these activities were about to become a financial liability to some entity some where who was part of the front running, and the release was to focus on the disclosure that it was happening and on to the Snowden story and side step possible corporate liability and law suits? That's the only way, based on my limited understanding of the events and your statement that I can see it as financially beneficial to disclose this....unless....it is a statement to many that...we have your data....and this is what we want from you.....or we will disclose it to the world....aka BLACKMAIL! I mean, does the President know that his phone is bugged? If Merkel's phone is bugged, so too is the phone of every Supreme court justice, the president, the speaker and any other person over whom they may need control. And coming back to the Carlyle Group, let's look at the roll out of George P. Bush. How could CG use the whole scenario to enable Bush's ascension to President? Might that have anything to do with the whole NSA/Snowden trick. And then, one more possibility I have considered. Does this have anything to do with a battle between the alphabet agencies as some have suggested may have been a part of other recent false flags?
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Post by brianroy on Feb 17, 2014 2:38:18 GMT -5
Brianroy, a question. Max Keiser and others have suggested that the NSA spying has more to do with industrial and financial espionage than terrorism. You comment that the Snowden escapade may be financially beneficial for Booz Allen or Carlyle Group. How does disclosure of the spying and surveillance advance their financial interests? I would have thought if the surveillance is to front run business deals, secrecy would be preferred. Is it possible, that these activities were about to become a financial liability to some entity some where who was part of the front running, and the release was to focus on the disclosure that it was happening and on to the Snowden story and side step possible corporate liability and law suits? That's the only way, based on my limited understanding of the events and your statement that I can see it as financially beneficial to disclose this....unless....it is a statement to many that...we have your data....and this is what we want from you.....or we will disclose it to the world....aka BLACKMAIL! I mean, does the President know that his phone is bugged? If Merkel's phone is bugged, so too is the phone of every Supreme court justice, the president, the speaker and any other person over whom they may need control. And coming back to the Carlyle Group, let's look at the roll out of George P. Bush. How could CG use the whole scenario to enable Bush's ascension to President? Might that have anything to do with the whole NSA/Snowden trick. And then, one more possibility I have considered. Does this have anything to do with a battle between the alphabet agencies as some have suggested may have been a part of other recent false flags?
Firecracker, On the Infowars Nightly News on Friday February 14, 2014, a taped interview with Steve Pieczenik advances the notion regarding billions of dollars in annual recurring U.S. Government contracts are at stake.
The essential numbers of about $6,000,000,000 of $60,000,000,000 in Government contracts that are at play, if we can cite Steve's interview, begins from a sentence
uttered starting at about 5 minutes and 5 seconds into the video above. Steve uses the term Booz Allen for Booz Allen Hamilton, which in turn is owned by the Carlyle Group,
and this publicly came out early in the Ed Snowden leak scandal. www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/09/booz-allen-hamilton-edward-snowden
In a recent blogpost, Steve states the contracts are "north of $50 billion" and states a number of "52.6 billion dollars".
His February 8, 2014 post reads thus: SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 2014
Edward Snowden: Spy or Whistleblower? Neither!
He is a Manufactured Avatar of the American Intelligence Community!
For over a year, the bloated American Intelligence Community, both the military and the civilian components, have been playing a game with us, citizens-taxpayers. A narrative was created in the personae, or what I call ‘avatar’ of an ostensible ex-CIA, ex-Special Forces and ex-NSA contractor named “Edward Snowden.” This Edward Snowden apparently leaked millions of intelligence documents regarding our massive electronic surveillance over our citizenry.
At the same time that Snowden is seeking political asylum in Russia, he directly attacks both the Director of National Intelligence, Lieut. General [Ret. USAF] James Clapper and General Keith Alexander [US Army], Director of the NSA/Cyber Command as the major culprits who are ‘destroying our personal liberties’ and are ‘snooping‘ on ‘foreign countries and foreign businesses.’
Sounds nefarious?
On the surface, Snowden sounds like the Mick Jagger’s image conveyed in the introductory lyrics of “Sympathy for the Devil”—‘You don’t know my name, but you do know my game.”
A portrait of Snowden has been constructed by Snowden in collaboration with others to create this Janus-like two headed monster. Devil or angel? Spy or whistle-blower? Nothing could more simple than a binary decision by the worldwide audience than a reflexive response similar to the infamous Gladiator fights during the rise and fall of the Roman Empire. For some time now, Snowden has presented his personae on different European TV Shows including the German TV one posted earlier on my site (thanks Patriarch!). After watching this interview a few times, I came away thinking, not like an ordinary American citizen, but more like a counter-intelligence operative.
What were the disturbing elements about Edward Snowden and this Intel narrative?
▪ On one hand, Snowden wants Americans to believe that he was just a simple Booz Allen sub-contractor who suddenly had a major crisis of conscience when DNI James Clapper ‘lied’ to Congress when he said that NSA never spied on the American public.
▪ Snowden’s personal indignation seemed to be credible and sincere. However, when he started to explain the complete layout of the intelligence community and how different compartments of the NSA worked along with the Intelligence Community, I could have sworn that he sounded more like James Clapper than James.
▪ Snowden never mentions John Brennan (his real boss at CIA). He only hammers on the—the DNI and the NSA (DNI and NSA are managed by military and ex Military)
▪ Snowden never mentioned his direct employer—Booz Allen— which is also controlled by John Michael McConnell, former Vice Admiral (26 years in Naval Intelligence, DNI 2007-2009, Director NSA ’92-’96).
▪ McConnell now heads Booz Allen, a $5.9B ‘nursing home’ for ‘retired military/civilian intelligence officers’ paid completely by the US taxpayers.
There are many players in this BeltWay Bandit theater which includes corporations like L3 Corp, SAIC, Mitre. One of the stars is none other than James Clapper! with supporting performances from CIA-operatives including George Little [Media Relations], James Woolsey [Director of CIA under Clinton]. In a dramatic twist now Clapper and Woolsey want to ‘try’ Snowden as a ‘traitor’ and are vociferous in their protestations… Perhaps too much!
Edward Snowden is part and parcel of an intelligence game played out in the public, by ex officio and present day intelligence officers from the CIA; NSA; National Geospatial Agency; and Congress .
Far fetched?
But remember in the world of intelligence there are no good guys or bad guys- just players and non-players gaming out the need for more and more intelligence and surveillance for a series of contrived threats in order to control, subjugate and tax the public. That old quest for dominance and riches.
Am I too harsh? Maybe!
For the most part, the incestuous relationships among the CIA, the NSA , NGA and Booz Allen, Carlyle Group speaks to one concern above all others---how much money will the private/public, military/civilian intelligence sector continue to receive from year to year? At issue is not outcomes or results. For the most part, over the thirty years that I served in different administrations, I find the Intel Community easily loses sight of the mission. It’s relevance is much like the US military—only to itself. As I wrote in a previous blog, that our military had no need for the USA and the USA had no need for our military; so it is with our civilian/military Intel Community. Their only major concerns—security, pension, and career advancement. Not exactly the attributes required of a proactive, risk-taking enterprise.
Where does Snowden relate to this incestuous, abscess ridden, dysfunctional intelligence community?
In my opinion, he is an ‘avatar’ created by the community to pre-empt the American public and private industry from controlling the evolving narrative of the future of the internet and the need for NET FORCE—a concept I literally created thirty years ago. I envisioned several government agencies, both domestic and foreign that would have to monitor and control the net in the name of ‘national security’.
Snowden is just a ‘tool’ or ‘narrator’ for the American Intelligence community to delineate the problems of electronic surveillance; the need for private public oversight and involvement and the imperative for all Presidents and legislators to remember that at any given time, the NSA and the DNI can evoke the following iconic terms of fear—“We have a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER!”
Snowden has allowed himself to be compared to the historically renown ‘whistleblower’ Daniel Ellsberg of the infamous “Pentagon Papers”. However, like Snowden, Ellsberg was just another “CIA/military facilitator” who ostensibly worked at the State Department. He never worked at State.
Ellsberg was in fact a CIA operative with a flimsy State Department cover who had worked at the Air Force think tank—RAND corp. And, more importantly, he had worked closely in Vietnam with the nefarious “Quiet American” CIA operative-- General Edward Landsdale.
Confusing?
On the one hand, both Snowden and Ellsberg work for intelligence organizations and even joined the military. Although in the case of Snowden, he “broke his leg during Special Forces training for Iraq” In the case of Ellsberg, he was a ‘gung-ho’ ,’crazy’ [according to my boss, Henry Kissinger] First Lieutenant Company Commander in the Marine 2nd Infantry Division. Neither man attacked their true linear patronage-the CIA. Snowden briefly states ‘he served in the CIA’ but makes no further mention of that fact . Nor does Snowden berate any Civilian/military leaders of the CIA .
Strange?
Ellsberg gets indicted for divulging the Top Secret Pentagon Papers then like Snowden, he ‘seeks refuge for fear he may be assassinated’.
Nonsense!
Where did I encounter Daniel Ellsberg between 1971-74? At M.I.T!!! At the John McCone Center of International Relations where all my Professors and students were trained by the CIA.
So like Snowden, Ellsberg works with the CIA and then ends up in a CIA sanctuary. Yes, I am saying that we the American citizens have been played by our intelligence community for their own benefit, without regard to our national security or their own legitimacy.
What I am really trying to say is that the CIA and other intelligence organizations created the wars in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somali, et al. Now, through an Edward Snowden, a bright young articulate ‘whistleblower/spy,’ the CIA and the other intelligence organizations are able to control all the narratives concerning 9/11, Stand Downs, Drone Wars, and other illegal activities by co-opting the public into a conversations that appears to threaten our core values, concerning ‘freedom of speech’ and other bill or rights issues; while all the time, extracting out more tax dollars and ‘spinning war stories’ as they wish.
They are truly CATHOLIC IN SCOPE AND BELIEF! The CIA [Brennan], White House [Doyle, McTiernan,] NSA [Alexander], DNI [Clapper]—can all commit the sins of war and destruction while at the same time, they allow us to FORGIVE THEM OF THEIR SINS. Not bad! They are perpetrators of crimes; then they act as ‘judge and jury’.
From Ellsberg to Snowden, we have had Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama---FOUR CIA OPERATIVES working as ‘thoroughly vetted civilians’ espousing transparency, justice, honor and all the democratic values that a republic will allow. Then we have countless number of appointments in the military and civilian organizations representing much sound and fury signifying nothing. All along the narrative consists of a ‘good guy’ , a ‘bad guy’ and of course, don’t forget, ‘freedom of the press’.
My conclusion concerning Snowden is that we, Americans, have been had. For the most part, our legislators act as political panderers, nothing more than decaying appendages in a dying corpse. What remains is the exoskeleton of a republic where bread and circus is interspersed with occasional media blitzes orchestrated for and by our ignoble, imploding intelligence community.
Citizens call to action: recall these congressional waste products, demand accountability on the Intelligence Budget which is north of $50B, let’s elect a president that is not a tool of the CIA. Let’s examine the resumes of our candidates and ask questions of their background. Don’t get fooled again!
Posted by Steve Pieczenik at 2:57 PM 38 comments:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now while Steve Pieczenik calls Obama as Central Intelligence Agency material, I was there in 1981 when this nefarious individual (Obama) in a private interview in a public restaurant made the utterances he did. Ayers and (circa 20 year old) Obama were not play acting for some obscure teenager and 20 something year old with their anti-United States vehement rhetoric, their agreement to have homosexual sex so Ayers could have a protective black-mail on Obama so as to prevent another Federal Bureau of Investigation sting against him in regard to court admissibility, and so forth. No. Ayers said he was "acting as a Representative of the Central Committee for the purposes of this interview", or words to this effect, and he made it unmistakably clear he was authorized to select 5 or 6 candidates under a long range goal of becoming President of the United States one day, possibly saying once as in 20 to 25 years as well as in 25 to 30 years from that summer in 1981 in Wilmette, Illinois. Obama had just flown in on a one way flight on British Airways, and said he arrived at something to the effect of 9:36 or 9:38 am, but he could have said 8:36 or 8:38 a.m. The time of the comment when he stated it was at or about 12:38 or 12:40 p.m, or something to this effect. He mentioned being in Pakistan, then Britain for 5 days, and that upon getting the phone call in England, he dropped everything and something- something like his mother or grandmother had to dip into her savings to buy the ticket for him to make this interview. The only primary qualification, as I recall, was if he was willing to destroy the United States Government from within for the Communist Cause, and was he dedicated enough for the task, starting with 5 days of mentoring by Ayers.
After a number of minutes I had harsh words with these two, and nobody else in the restaurant even cared that these two were consenting homosexual Communists cussing out and boasting Treason. Long story short, we crossed paths multiple times in the next few days on Chicago Avenue in Evanston, as Ayers taught Obama to be a "loud and proud Communist" and that it was "alright because nobody cares" theatrics, and then moving Obama into Community Activism, which involved inciting a mob in South Chicago against the computer store of the homeowners I was a house guest with, and bankrupting him because I dared have harsh words with these two, and made the mistake of allowing myself to be followed back (perhaps from a 1940s A&P I walked down to, which shared a quite small parking lot with a Kentucky Fried Chicken, if I recall correctly), which was south of what was a Northwestern University Campus offshoot or something (at the time).
I was merely a house-guest who obtained an Illinois ID and stayed for about 8 weeks or something to this effect in the summer in 1981, and Ayers and Obama were not then nor ever C.I.A. as Steve Pieczenik mistakenly believes. I cannot speak for Obama's alleged mother as to whether or not she was C.I.A., but Obama and Ayers? They certainly were not C.I.A. in 1981, nor is it credible to say at anytime since, either, it seems to me.
In 1981, Obama said he did not have a birth certificate or know where he was born, and Ayers said, "we'll fix that". In 1995, Ayers writes for Obama "You know, as soon as the Old Man died, the lawyers contacted all those who might have a claim to the inheritance.
Unlike my mum,
Ruth
has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was."
Dreams from My Father, p. 345 Barack Obama (confessing there is NO Birth Certificate of any kind for Barack Hussein Obama II in Hawaii in 1981, let alone 1995).
www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=280073
Obama still has foreign citizenship and is subject to the Islamic nation of Indonesia, and has no true loyalty to the Republic of the United States or our Constitution. He employs a fellow Muslim in John Brennan, who was C.I.A., who is talented in counter-espionage, and has used those talents for hire professionally. Edward Snowden may or may not be a whistle-blower, but it was within the financial interests of certain companies such as one Brennan and Clapper used to work for, and still have close connections with, to have these men compromise or aid in the compromise of the security of the United States to aid and comfort its enemies, and create financial contract opportunities with more problems and larger budgets for personal financial gain, it seems to me. This whole data dump is part of a dismantling of U.S. defenses from within by many traitors whose common links are hatred of the Republic of the United States, be they Leftists, Communists or Islamists or other. Why else emasculate the U.S. Nuclear arsenal, call planes and submarines nuclear warheads where the U.S. is concerned, and support Al Qaeda of Iraq reconstituted as Al Nusrah and name evangelical Christians as the true terrorists, unless you are someone hell bent on bringing down and destroying this nation? That's Obama, and Brennan, and others via their deeds and the poisonous fruits of their labors.
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Post by brianroy on Feb 17, 2014 3:20:23 GMT -5
Something fishy is happening with Barack Obama as a registered voter
www.dcboee.org/voter_info/reg_status/vic_Search_list.asp
and this should raise alarm regarding everything else regarding this same man who states he was born 3 months before the Bay of Pigs happened, or having a birth-date in January 1961 while being registered to vote with a August 4, 1961 birth-date.
Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller of ABC News, blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/04/president-ob-20.html
and Major Garrett of Foxnews
www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/18/obama-endures-ortega-diatribe/ -- both reported on April 17, 2009 -- and that of Howard LaFranchi, Staff writer of the Christian Science Monitor reporting 2 days after the fact on April 19, 2009, that Obama claimed an entire different birthdate than the official 1984 Newsspeak narrative:
www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/0419/chummy-obama-chavez-mark-spirit-of-cooperation-at-summit "…Obama responded disarmingly to an hour-long opening speech by Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega, in which the former leftist revolutionary reviewed US action against Cuba including the failed Bay of Pigs invasion
. “I’m grateful President Ortega did not blame me for things that happened when I was three months old,” he told chuckling leaders."
The Bay of Pigs incident happened on April 17, 1961, when 1400 C.I.A. initially supported Cuban exiles launched what became a botched invasion on the south coast of Cuba.
So Obama was then clearly saying he was born in January 1961.
As of October 2012, Obama isn't legally registered to vote under the name of Barack Obama.
The District of Columbia Board of Elections does thus with Barack Obama's info:
Voter Registration Status
The Board of Elections and Ethics does not have a record matching the information you supplied.
Please review the following input data for errors.
First Name
BARACK
Last Name
OBAMA
Date of Birth
8/4/1961
Zip Code
20500
For more information, please contact the DC Board of Elections and Ethics at the address below.
D.C. Board of Elections and Ethics
Attn: e-Government Division
441 4th Street, NW, Suite 250 North
Washington, DC 20001
Tel: (202) 727-2525
Question: Why was Obama voting for himself in 2012 only as Barry Soetoro, the name by which he is an Indonesian Citizen and a religious Muslim?
However, the point is, is that Obama IS on legally on file as registered to vote under the name of Barry Soetoro in Washington D.C.
So what are the legal ramifications of Obama signing legislation under one name, but voting for himself as a Citizen of Indonesia in the 2012 Presidential Election? And shouldn't this have been the kind of thing America's Intelligence Community should have been infuriated at and demanded Obama's Impeachment at the very least?
But perhaps some will say they challenge me and remind me of Chiyome Fukino saying Obama was born in Hawaii and saw his birth certificate, and it said August 4, 1961. Well...not so fast.
Chiyome Fukino, the former Department of Health Director, adamantly said.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
She followed this above statement up in July 2009,
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaiʻi State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaiʻi and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.” www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/19/hi-dept-of-health-refuses-to-corroborate-that-obama-born-in-hawaii/
So what really happened? She lied. When she was approached by CNN in April 2012, what was the Birth Certificate she is alleged to have given the CNN producers to post as Barack Obama's? You can view it for yourself in full screen and at the highest resolution on your screen at:
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ThIWqgMGx04
or open the same video below and freeze frame it at 1:22, 1:23, and carefully view the document for yourself.
Obama claims a Long Form Birth Certificate 151-61-10641 number. These numbers are NOT the same as CNN claimed on this CNN video piece.
The CNN video piece below shows a Birth Certificate # 151-60-05000 possibly #151-60-05009 (the last digit having a defect to the inner left. Gary Tuchman of CNN specifically says that this specific microfilm replica IS BARACK OBAMA's. The implication or reasonable inference is "as supplied or vetted by Dr. Fukino".
On THIS CNN Presented Birth Certificate, the Attending Physician is Dr. Herbert Tanaka. --Not Dr. West as the Obama narrative claimed until April 27, 2011. --Not Dr. David A. Sinclair as the Obama fictional narrative now declares, static.infowars.com/2012/06/i/general/peers-briefing-2.pdf but a Dr. Herbert Tanaka.
The document was certified on April 21, 1960. This copy was reproduced on April 25, 1965.
CNN presented an April 1960 birth certificate of Keith Suganuma as that of Barack Obama's as that supplied courtesy of Dr. Chiyome Fukino, who attested that this Keith Suganuma birth Certificate is the one she attests to as Barack Obama's. Really, does Obama look 100% Japanese? Hardly.
CNN and Dr. Fukino attempted to pass off a proof of Obama's birth in Hawaii using someone born in the wrong year (1960) who was fathered by a 42 year old Japanese American Police Officer (Francis Suganuma), and born to a 20 year old Japanese American mother.
I do not think the problem of the NSA documents leaks by Edward Snowden to foreign Media are so much a National Security crisis issue or crisis problem as that of the person of Barack Hussein Obama II, which Obama's own U.S. ambassador to Kenya, Mr. Ranneberger, diplomatically recognized Barack II's birth as being NOT IN HAWAII OR ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES, but in Kogelo Kenya, the same place where his father is buried, and was noted in an official memo by the Kenyan Government to this effect regarding a May 2009 attended by ambassador Ranneberger ceremony there. www.wnd.com/files/110525nsisbulletin.pdf
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Post by brianroy on Feb 17, 2014 10:48:18 GMT -5
Whether We Say It Is From January 2009, Or Since Sometime In 2010, Obama OWNS the NSA Scandal . That is the realization that the even the Obama worshiping Media was finally coming to in late October 2013.
www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/10/27/woodward_secret_government_under_obama_administration_needs_to_be_reviewed.html
SCHIEFFER: The first thing that agencies tend to do is try to make sure they can't be blamed for something. And, clearly, that is why the FBI and the CIA did not come clean with the Warren commission, and why maybe they didn't even tell the agents in Dallas what was going on.
WOODWARD: Well, initially, in the Watergate cover-up, part of the argument was, 'Oh, you'll expose convert operations in Mexico,' because they were laundering $89,000 of money that helped finance Watergate. I think there's a theme here in all of this that you have laid out that connects somewhat to what's going on now. And that is the power of this secret world -- CIA, FBI -- particularly in what you've looked at, Phil, the assassination plots against Castro. I mean, it's stunning, and this information really didn't get to the Warren commission. And it's not saying that Castro did it, but that there's all this secrecy and the people at the top or the people investigating the commission does not get the evidence.
We look now at what's going on with all the NSA wiretapping and people saying, 'Well, they didn't know, or they did know.' It clearly is much more extensive than people expected. You connect this with the drone strikes in Pakistan, and Yemen, which is our government conducting regular assassinations by air. You know, what's -- what's going on here? Who is in control of it? And who can find out? You know, I think -- it's in the New York Times this morning that there is a review that Susan Rice, the National Security Adviser for Obama, has done on Mid-East policy. They need to review this secret world and its power in their government because you run into this rats nest of concealment and lies time and time again, then and now.
The question that the Mainstream Liberal Media pose is beginning to be exposed through the NSA Scandal that broke in June 2013. The UK telegraph reports that Obama clearly KNEW of the NSA spy program -- as he always wants to blame somebody else -- in 2010, and that German Chancellor Angela Merkel's calls (as well as 35 other world leaders calls and e-mails) were being recorded
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10407282/Barack-Obama-approved-tapping-Angela-Merkels-phone-3-years-ago.html www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/27/barack-obama-nsa-angela-merkel-germany www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/24/nsa-surveillance-world-leaders-calls and transcribed and the verbal information then passed around as needed on a need to know basis. This insight was leaked and made known from Ed Snowden provided NSA documentation as yet unpublished by Journalists in Germany and France.
One of the first mass initial opportunities of the NSA scandal used by Obama had to do with the Middle East, where Obama attempted to fever pitch it to his advantage to foment violence against the United States by appearance of weakness and cowardice, and get the United States out of as many as 10 Middle Eastern Countries in stealth jihadi victory for Islam.
On August 8, 2013, Obama went to Camp Pendleton in California and after closing 19 embassies - consulates (and perhaps diplomatic missions as well) in some 10 or so Middle Eastern countries based on a generalized terror threat, and showed that the United States was cowardly across an entire region. A proper response to trouble in Yemen should have been to merely restrict hours of access or temporarily close just the one embassy in Yemen and perhaps whatever other consulate and mission locations in immediate danger in Yemen were needed for a day or several days, as each location's threat assessment required. Obama told the U.S. Military as his captive audience at Camp Pendleton that:
www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/national/09-Aug-2013/al-qaeda-ranks-hammered-obama “For these extremists, here’s what those who would cowardly attack our civilians don’t get: The United States is never going to retreat from the world. We don’t get terrorized,”
Really? The “Snowden – NSA Effect” was that Obama tried to create a policy with his pen and his phone that if a group like Al Qaeda In Arabia uses even a “phone chatter prank”, knowing the NSA is listening in compliments of the Snowden Data Dump on the NSA, and then Al Qaeda talks up a phony terror attack in phone traffic using key words provided in the Snowden-NSA-Obama scandal, and hook it into a single country's (Yemen's) crisis event, Obama won’t just have one embassy close down, he won’t let the crisis go to waste and attempt to incite an entire Middle East by closing 18 more embassies and diplomatic missions in 9 more countries over the next 2 or 3 days. cnsnews.com/news/article/us-reopen-18-diplomatic-missions-after-threat-0 We are somehow to expect that a guy who supports Al Qaeda materially in Syria, and is trying to Islamicize the Executive Branch by proselytization, who views American citizenship not as by blood or by birth but by a leftist political correctness and anti-constitutional as well as anti-Christian mindset, that he has only good intentions in the Presidency, despite being mentored by Alice Palmer who was a KGB asset who in turn employed Barack Obama as her Chief of Staff keywiki.org/index.php/Alice_Palmer , who then usurped her Communist connections to be the new darling of the Chicago New party and Democratic Socialists (so named in honor of Karl Marx and his politics). There is lots of good info at Keywiki involving Obama as a true Communist-Socialist in American Politics at keywiki.org/index.php/Barack_Obama and the F.B.I. files of his teenage years mentor Communist Central Party Committee Board Member Frank Marshal Davis' usasurvival.org/marshall.fbi.files.html , who had Obama's white grandfather and white grandmother as Party subordinates, and according to Obama in 1981 in what I witnessed and heard he said (and is public knowledge in a separate poem he published while at Occidental), Obama said then (and published) that Frank Marshall Davis had sex (i.e. raped) Barack as a boy, which poem publication could politically compromise him he said during his interview with Bill Ayers, but that is good for another post and is a digression here.
It was not until October 2013 that French Media seemed to excite the public that the mere tone of a phone number being dialed in France can automatically trigger a phone call being NSA recorded
. www.lemonde.fr/technologies/article/2013/10/21/france-in-the-nsa-s-crosshair-phone-networks-under-surveillance_3499741_651865.html something that that was obvious as soon as the NSA Top Secret charts were published in the Guardian back in June of 2013,
then subsequently by Media around the world, and showed a world wide exposure bordering on near total phone tapping across the planet was being achieved. The June 2013 data dumped NSA charts can be seen at: gu.com/p/3k3mk
But it is clear that what did alarm the Germans in October 2013, was (in part) that Edward Snowden revealed but also shared corroborative document that showed he had U.S. Embassy NSA related document sources from within the United States Embassy in Berlin, Germany; the same embassy which those documents given by Ed Snowden and others to Der Spiegel that showed the U.S. Embassy in Berlin also doubled as an NSA listening station,
www.spiegel.de/international/germany/cover-story-how-nsa-spied-on-merkel-cell-phone-from-berlin-embassy-a-930205.html
and that Der Spiegel and Le Monde apparently have MORE leaked U.S. top secret NSA documents than they are willing to now reveal, to back it up.
Who benefits from the NSA exposure? The Carlyle Group, having a 185 billion dollar portfolio, including real estate and ownership of Booz Allen Hamilton most certainly could. They could easily step in and provide a real estate service for the NSA new listening station relocation in Germany, and then position themselves as if indispensable when “it” hits the fan…never mind that there might be complicity and conspiracy involved between one or more Board members, Brennan and Obama, and after the fact of being awarded contracts, provide a finder's fee kick-back or commission, if you will. But Obama, you might ask?
It is clear Obama was informed in 2010 for certain, and at that point forward, he made the choices he made. I suggest that this whole Edward Snowden NSA data dump could have been 3 years in the making, as Obama knew in 2010 for certain of the NSA listening in on anything and everything, including the European heads of State. But in order to be protective of his Saudi benefactors who arranged his time at Harvard via a Khalid Mansour, Obama likely verbally signed off on this NSA data dump perhaps up to years in advance, and Brennan likely worked through two levels down to locate and convince what happened to be Ed Snowden to do what he did, and to be guided to Hong Kong and Russia by an unknown handler. At least, that's how it seems to me.
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Post by firecracker on Feb 17, 2014 21:59:42 GMT -5
I marvel at the documentation and breadth of your posts.
About 50% of your information, I knew, but you pull it all together with documentation sources attached to the info, then add an additional volume that I did not know or have only heard rumored.
If Obama and mom and dad and grandma were not CIA, then they were one of the other alphabets, correct? I mean, I thought Obama's mother worked for Timothy Geithner's father in the Rand Corp in above CIA level?
And the grandmother was strategically placed in the funds clearing section where black op funds were disseminated, so surely, she was connected. Was she also Rand or some other intelligence agency?
My nickname for him is murky. Just like pond water the color of his skin, you can't be sure what lies beneath the brown flesh we see on TV.
I wonder? Was Snowden just a way to 'test' how far the group think mind control had gone in the general population? Was it a way to get the conversation out there to develop the statistics that they need to decide on the timing of the next phase?
If so, we are in trouble, because the resistance to the revelations of almost complete surveillance of our daily and mostly mundane lives is a fraction of 1%. And what resistance is displayed is mostly a sham to build political momentum by some and maintain control of the momentum by others.
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Post by firecracker on Feb 17, 2014 22:21:39 GMT -5
So the Carlyle Group seems to be a lucrative magnet for former top officials. This article from 2003 is interesting and illustrates the incestuous relationship between CG and our USG. And also illustrates how some things can be financially beneficial. "Directors of one of the world’s largest armament companies are planning on meeting in Lisbon in three weeks time. The American based Carlyle Group is heavily involved in supplying arms to the Coalition forces fighting in the Iraqi war. It also holds a majority of shares in the Seven Up company and Federal Data Corporation, supplier of air traffic control surveillance systems to the US Federal Aviation Authority. The 12 billion dollar company has recently signed contracts with United Defence Industries to equip the Turkish and Saudi Arabian armies with aviation defence systems. Top of the meeting’s agenda is expected to be the company’s involvement in the rebuilding of Baghdad’s infrastructure after the cessation of current hostilities. Along with several other US companies, the Carlyle Group is expected to be awarded a billion dollar contract by the US Government to help in the redevelopment of airfields and urban areas destroyed by Coalition aerial bombardments. The Group is managed by a team of former US Government personnel including its president Frank Carlucci, former deputy director of the CIA before becoming Defence Secretary. His deputy is James Baker II, who was Secretary of State under George Bush senior. Several high profile former politicians are employed to represent the company overseas, among them John Major, former British Prime Minister, along with George Bush senior, one time CIA director before becoming US President. The financial assets of the Saudi Binladen Corporation (SBC) are also managed by the Carlyle Group. The SBC is headed up by members of Osama bin Laden’s family, who played a principle role in helping George W. Bush win petroleum concessions from Bahrain when he was head of the Texan oil company, Harken Energy Corporation - a deal that was to make the Bush family millions of dollars. Salem, Osama bin Laden’s brother, was represented on Harken’s board of directors by his American agent, James R. Bath. The connection between the Bush and bin Laden families can also be traced to the collapse of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) in the 1990s. Members of the Anglo Pakistani bank’s board of directors included Richard Helms and William Casey, business partners of George Bush senior and former CIA agents. During their time at BCCI both Helms and Casey worked alongside fellow director, Adnan Khasshoggi, who also represented the bin Laden family’s interests in the US. The Portugal News has been told by a reliable source that the Carlyle Group meeting in Lisbon will discuss the relationship between the Saudi Binladen Corporation (SBC) and Osama bin Laden. Many US officials claim that the SBC continues to finance his political activities, and has done so for many years. If true, this would place George Bush senior and his colleagues at the Carlyle Group in an embarrassing position. As managers of SBC’s financial investments they might well be accused of indirectly aiding and abetting the United States’ number one enemy." globalresearch.ca/articles/NEW304A.html
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Post by firecracker on Feb 17, 2014 22:37:24 GMT -5
I think the thing that has media upset is not the revelations that citizens activities are being constantly surveilled.....but, the revelation that they, the media, are not exempt from this. I believe much of the media has a quid pro quo idea about dealing with this administration which goes something like this redneck version. "We'll print your horse crap and even read it on the nightly news with a straight face, as long as you acknowledge that we are special. Because we can make or break you." Now they've found out, THEY are the ones that can be made or broken. And so far, they are pissed off about this dawn of reality, but too cushy in their star power and salaries to do any real reporting. As Gerald Celente has said many times in interviews, they are not 'reporters' they are 'repeaters.'
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Post by brianroy on Feb 18, 2014 5:52:18 GMT -5
I think we might also add to this discussion that Edward Snowden is in ill health and in the two-minute Christmas 2013 video, looks to be starving or in very ill health and almost starving. www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA5Odb0fg5IRegardless of how much a whistle-blower Edward Snowden is, he is suffering for what he believes is his patriotic duty.
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Post by firecracker on Feb 18, 2014 19:23:44 GMT -5
Sorry, I can't see the ill health or starving point. He looks fine to me.
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Post by brianroy on Feb 19, 2014 12:41:12 GMT -5
Firecracker, My analysis is based on the comparison we all know from what Snowden looks like in his Hong Kong interview video, and that of the Christmas video. To some it may be subjective, or in the eye of the beholder, but I do not believe it is, as I see a clear deterioration of health, facial muscle deterioration, weight loss and other deficiencies. That said, perhaps I should just let it go at that.
In July 2012, a very interesting hacker convention happened, because NSA Whistleblower William Binney appeared. In fact, what he has to say from about 25:32 to about 50 minutes on the video dovetails very nicely into the Ed Snowden discussion.
youtu.be/dxnp2Sz59p8
At the 25:32 ff. section, William Binney starts with a description of his first NSA billion dollar project development budget offer (apart from what he was used to at several millions) for development, and almost immediately, he says, Corporations which leech money away or which have a regular role of “feasting” via Government contracts (at the 27- 28 minute segments) began to fight for and demand moneys that were supposed to be allocated only to the NSA and his program, resulting in the hire of an outside Corporate executive to run an internal budgeting oversight of the NSA. The NSA version of problem solving was to bureaucratically NOT solve them, or as William Binney puts it at 30:00 – to 30:03 on the video, to “Keep the problem going, so the money [the budgetary monies from Congress] keeps flowing.”
In effect, this Government Contract leeching via large budgets, and the obvious power-lobbying involved in obtaining contracts to make corporations lucrative even when they do not render a truly productive problem-solving or cost-productive necessary service, has been around for decades. What I personally found disconcerting in the video, is that when one of Binney's NSA development programs went into operation and on-line in November 2000, during the transition period from November 2000 to January 2001, the decision and agreement was made between President Bill Clinton and incoming President George W. Bush, that the green-lighting of an internalization spying of U.S. Citizens as though they were the enemy, was commencing. It wasn't because of 9-11, rather 9-11 was a crisis that a certain faction of the Military-Industrial complex that profiteers off of providing "Intelligence" and "Security" contracts seized upon as a crisis, even though I do not believe they were involved before the fact, after the fact of 9-11 used as a turn-key event they dared not let go to waste, and exceeded beyond what even they hoped to gain.
In his testimonial before the hackers convention, William Binney states that far too many in the head positions of the Intelligence Community and in Congress have either a disregard or cowardice regarding the Constitution. And if we simply look at John Brennan, and his swearing in ceremonial by Biden, www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/08/john-brennan-takes-oath-on-draft-constitution-without-the-bill-of-rights/ we can indeed say that this accusation rings true. John Brennan appears to personally believe that he has the legal and moral authority to rip out those parts of the Constitution he doesn't like, which to him are ALL the Amendments, especially those 10 Amendments we label as the Bill of Rights. These were actually Amendments 3 to 12 that were passed, the first two having failed, and were ratified to express the intent of the Founders to successive generations as to the form of Government they intended (but was not fully expressed) in the main text of the Constitution. The Founders feared if successive generations had only the text of the Constitution without the intent that we should have freedom of religion, freedom of the press, the right of the people to bear arms, et cetera, later generations forgetting or not knowing these intents in a non-amended Constitution would draw a conclusion that gave them a tyranny rather than a Free Republic. John Brennan took an oath of office that demonstrates he WANTS a tyranny upon the people of the United States, and broke his oath upon even that main text which he swore to uphold, because it requires he enforce that only a natural born citizen of the United States be President (i.e., Obama being a direct violation of that) and that a Senator serving in Office must serve out his term before being appointed to a cabinet or executive position (e.g. John Kerry to Secretary of State www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/29/us-usa-obama-kerry-vote-idUSBRE90S0O020130129 voted yes by 94 senators who violated the Constitution in approval , Max Baucus to Ambassador of China www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/02/06/max-baucus-confirmed-as-u-s-ambassador-to-china/ voted yes on by 96 senators violating the Constitution in approval). So it seems, that as William Binney states, whether by concurring to the conspiracy whole-heartedly or by cowardice, [virtually] all of Congress is breaking their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States from clear and direct violations of it on a business and usual basis.
A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is defined for us in the context of the period in which the Constitution was written through John Locke's Second Treatise on Government, Chapter 6: ‘Of Paternal Power’ §. 59, as being that of a Son of his Citizen Father, born to the same soil and legience of his father, and reared up and taught in the land-legience-governance of his father naturally to join that same Government on the soil of his native birth as that of his father's, until he effectually takes his place as an extension of his father as a citizen in the land of his father...so that when the father dies, the citizenship of the nation is naturally extended, and does NOT die off.
"...the term ‘natural born citizen’ is used and excludes all persons owing allegiance by birth to foreign states.” The New Englander and Yale Law Review, Volume 3 (1845), p. 414 books.google.com/books?id=gGNJAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA414&dq=Vattel+%2B%22natural+born+citizen%22&as_brr=4&cd=5#v=onepage&q=Vattel%20%20%22natural%20born%20citizen%22&f=false
Hence, by the mere possession of a foreign national father who was and stayed a United Kingdom and Colonies Citizen and a Citizen of Kenya until his death, who whose paternity made Barack Hussein Obama II a Natural Born Citizen of the United Kingdom and Kenya by paternity, it is impossible to label Barack Hussein Obama II a United States "Natural Born" citizen because under our laws all who have alien allegiances at birth are excluded from that definition of what constitutes a United states Natural Born Citizen, regardless of location of birth. A location which Kenya's Government --
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT Thursday, 25th March, 2010 The House met at 2.30 p.m. p. 31 …2nd paragraph (Mr. Orengo, Minister of Lands of the nation of Kenya, speaking): “…how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion.” www.scribd.com/doc/29758466/RDRAFT25
-- Kenya's Media www.scribd.com/doc/22046837/Kenya-The-Standard-Online-Edition-2004-06-27-issue-Kenyan-born-Obama , Obama's own step-grandmother www.scribd.com/doc/52209399/step-grandmother-sarah-obama-says-us-president-obama-passed-through-her-hands-sunday-nation-newspaper-in-kenya-4 , Obama himself for 16 years www.westernjournalism.com/obama-literary-agent-obama-born-in-kenya/ www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii and Obama's own Ambassador to Kenya recognize as being a birth location of Kenya for the man now occupying the Presidency of the United States.
And in regard to voting sitting senators to Executive Branch Positions while still senators, (we can also cite Hillary Clinton who was solicited and then unchallenged when it came out she was being picked in November 2008):
Article 1, Section. 6.
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.
Thanks.
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Post by firecracker on Feb 19, 2014 21:35:05 GMT -5
BR, I wasn't challenging your observation of Snowden, only stating that I could not 'see' what you believe you see. Thank you for the explanation. You may be correct, or not, my powers of observation of small changes is limited. I am a big picture gal. I have not yet had the opportunity to watch the video, but I noticed in your description that you do not believe 'they were involved before the fact'. Who is they? The intelligence community? Or are you stating that you do not believe 9-11 was an inside job? It has been on this forum that I have awakened to how much of what we, the public, believe is done by the 'government' is actually done by private corporations. It has been an awakening to me similar to the awakening by others to the fact that the Fed is not part of the government but is in fact a private banking cartel. Thanks for the video, I'm anxious to watch it.
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Post by firecracker on Feb 19, 2014 21:36:05 GMT -5
Oh, one last note. I have had to copy and highlight the 'blue' text. Against the brown background it is nearly impossible for me to read.
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Post by brianroy on Feb 20, 2014 4:43:24 GMT -5
BR, I wasn't challenging your observation of Snowden, only stating that I could not 'see' what you believe you see. Thank you for the explanation. You may be correct, or not, my powers of observation of small changes is limited. I am a big picture gal. I have not yet had the opportunity to watch the video, but I noticed in your description that you do not believe 'they were involved before the fact'. Who is they? The intelligence community? Or are you stating that you do not believe 9-11 was an inside job? It has been on this forum that I have awakened to how much of what we, the public, believe is done by the 'government' is actually done by private corporations. It has been an awakening to me similar to the awakening by others to the fact that the Fed is not part of the government but is in fact a private banking cartel. Thanks for the video, I'm anxious to watch it. The "they" is the last sentence of the second paragraph that follows the Binney / Hacker's Convention video, which states that "a certain faction of the Military-Industrial complex that profiteers off of providing "Intelligence" and "Security" contracts seized upon as a crisis, even though I do not believe they were involved before the fact, after the fact of 9-11 used as a turn-key event they dared not let go to waste, and exceeded beyond what even they hoped to gain." We can say that lobbyists, Security Corporations, members of Congress, select members of the Executive Branch outside and even inside the highest levels of the military (including Intelligence), et cetera, seized upon the opportunity of 9-11.
In circa August of 2000, a public place observation was passed on to a certain captain with Able Danger out of Army Intel who was in California following a certain foreign individual. Based on what was allegedly said by certain men, one who allegedly was to eventually be the head hijacker, it seemed a reasonable assumption that 9/11 was being planned for September 11, 2000 When it did not happen, the whole scenario and source who saw and passed on this observation were discredited and it was as if it never happened. That certain Army Captain rightly wanted to keep tabs on the one who would be the alleged head hijacker in 2001, but because of diplomatic sensitivities with Saudi Arabia, was told to back off, or something to this effect. The whole scenario seemed disbelieved as ever possibly coming about in the days after it didn't happen.
When in 2001 9/11 happened, they already knew the name from the intel gathered the year before that was hotly discussed, who the head hijacker talked to on the phone over a year before in his discussing exactly the same unfolding scenario with. And "magically", it seems as we look at the news footage, the name of "Osama Bin Laden" is discussed by news media watching the Twin Towers burning, even before they fell...all these Media discussing Osama Bin Laden as the potential source of the attack in a matter of minutes?
Could 9-11 have been stopped at Logan airport? I don't know, at least one plane could have been stopped. Perhaps someone in Intel following the situation that interfered with a Law Enforcement "intrusion" thought the hijackers would simply hijack the jet to Canada or Cuba or something? The Twin Towers do not appear to be an intentional inside job so much as because of incompetence and an unintended consequence of not reeling in suspects under observation, but why was the building next to it destroyed by demolitions except that (under hypothesis here) it was perhaps a highest level black ops site and there was a fear of security breech to such an extent, that someone over the detonate switch -- someone like the U.S. Marine whose job it is to destroy "secret" and "top secret" data , documents, and equipment when an Embassy is over-run -- perhaps someone took the nuclear option when unknown firefighters and police or something breached an "eyes only" area of that building such as something forbidden by Congress and U.S. Law to be there? I can only guess as to this last part.
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