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jk
Jul 31, 2013 19:39:54 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Jul 31, 2013 19:39:54 GMT -5
OMG! the link....in less than a minute he talks about blowing up bridges and trains...and the headline says subversion in India....I really picked a good one for my JOKE! Obviously, if I had known any of this, I would never have wandered into that corner. Oh geeez! Thanks for the link! Ignorance is not always bliss!
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jk
Jul 31, 2013 19:52:20 GMT -5
Post by RickH on Jul 31, 2013 19:52:20 GMT -5
You can joke and laugh all you wish,
Many U.S. Vets already know groups are using former KGB operatives for Psychological Warfare against US.
Which means you objectivity is in question, "clown".
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jk
Jul 31, 2013 20:43:42 GMT -5
Post by RickH on Jul 31, 2013 20:43:42 GMT -5
Some lesson for you, How do you expose persons performing “Psychological Warfare Operations” against United States peoples? They have distinct patterns that are repeated over, as well their fascist ideology relating to global war on terror and "watch list stalking". They have psychological disorders to “stalk humans”, as they are stalkers with intentions to harass, torture, and murdering as many victims as possible. They have no concern about how many peoples they murder.
And the above described is their PROFESSION.
How do you determine Fascist Ideology?
By introducing subject matter were such persons’ will expose their extreme belief in such ideology, and this relating to (selectivity). Or their perception of humanity, they believe to be ‘chosen ones’ for such “selection process”, and have extreme desires and fantasies about determining who lives or dies. They believe less in natural processes, as they perceive themselves as “gods” or near so, and desire for such power and fantasy of. This easily determined, and many practicing “Psychological Warfare Personnel” have these desires, but it’s really an extreme fascist ideology and "psychological disorder".
Many “Psychological Warfare Experts” are actually closet “Terrorist”, this (FACT) not Fiction and is well known.
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jk
Jul 31, 2013 21:28:07 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Jul 31, 2013 21:28:07 GMT -5
For anyone following this thread, go to the link that RickH posted near the bottom of page 1. The video is long but worth the time to watch. I notice that he gave that talk about 30 years ago. If you think how far we have descended in the last 30 years here in the U.S., you will realize how far along the agenda we already have gone....and IMO, how hopeless it is to turn it around without conflict....and if we go the route of conflict...what the dangers are that we will emerge from the other side worse than we are now.
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jk
Jul 31, 2013 22:00:07 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Jul 31, 2013 22:00:07 GMT -5
Here's a little message from 'the clown'. YOU posted a ridiculous video and said the main player in it was like ELMER FUDD. I don't think, given the tone with which you posted the video and given its contents, that making a statement slightly snarky which basically agrees with your statement about the skill set of 'Elmer Fudd', was out of line. In fact, the second statement I made was made because some of the links and conversation were SO RIDICULOUS, that I wondered whether you and others were sending messages to operatives in other countries to pull off some kind of event. And the last thing I wanted to do was activate some 'trigger' for some world event. I found your last video very interesting and worthwhile. But because people have grown up in 'identity groups', I don't think most would 'get it.' And IMO, there are PhD's who certainly know how this works, and yet they are pushing not to unite, but to propel segments of the population into fighting for their share of the 'pie.' 'student loan rates' 'labor unions', 'pensions'. In my world, broke is broke. When there's no money in the wallet or public wallet, doesn't matter how much 'you' deserve. 100% of nothing is still nothing....but not in America and not with the Federal Reserve.
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jk
Jul 31, 2013 23:06:49 GMT -5
Post by RickH on Jul 31, 2013 23:06:49 GMT -5
If you don't understand who I am, my background, then they are succeeding. You are reacting as they wish, and if confused about my back ground, then they are succeeding again.
But then, when they arrive are you studying their objectives and who they are linked too?
And if not, they will derail everything you attempt to do. Did you recognize some methodology from the video, the signature.
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jk
Jul 31, 2013 23:58:38 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Jul 31, 2013 23:58:38 GMT -5
What I understand is that you have made some rather strong remarks to me. So, if you are working for them, and I have reacted to your remarks, then they ARE succeeding. Because I do not believe (perhaps naively) that you are working for THEM, I am simply reminding you that I believe we are on the same side and that I don't appreciate the LABELS you choose to put on me. 'When they arrive'....who?.... Because 'they' ...if we mean the demon people...have a long term plan and have carefully poisoned the society...and because 'they' have a network....no matter what approach I take....theY WILL derail everything I attempt to do. Agreed. And that you attempt to do. And that Topwrench is gonna call her Congressman about. That is their nature. So, let me understand. The French video where the security guy says things are good, then the explosion and the cow moooo's. The security guy is simply a joke. A B.S. artist or simply incompetent. You said Elmer Fudd and seemed to want to compare him to whom? G.D? someone else? Perhaps you and someone else were having a 'private' conversation and I just wandered in. I was trying to figure out what in the world you were talking about. It was making no sense. And, BTW, 'they' love to send in people who blunder and cause chaos. It's like giving a car with no brakes, a push at the top of the hill. You know it is going to crash, but it won't be because you gave it a helpful push. It will be the fault of the driver or the lack of brakes or a cow wandering into its path. If you own a body shop, nearby, all it is....is BUSINESS! And in the situation with the KGB agent, 30 years ago, explaining how they encourage and reinforce those things in which we engage, using our impetus and simply adding a little helpful 'nudge'. They have created multiple possibilities for implosion and chaos. Do they care which takes this country down? NO! It's simply BUSINESS! But you are the one who makes a business of this stuff....who studies it....comes here to 'monitor' the rest of us. So if I had to make a guess what answer you are looking for...the 'signature'...it would be, let the implosion happen....come in and grab control during the chaos. So, you're the teacher. What is the 'signature' you have identified. And, BTW, when they arrive, it is too darned late to worry about 'methodology'....the time for that will be long past. Then, it will be time to deal with the problem more directly. However, since you are a student of their methodology, perhaps I can send 'them' to YOU...you seem to have a plan to deal with them. I'll gladly pay the postage. Are you going to post a follow up video showing how to 'derail' their 'derailment?"
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jk
Aug 1, 2013 7:38:08 GMT -5
Post by RickH on Aug 1, 2013 7:38:08 GMT -5
The Mr. Bean clip was joke for Dr. P, I know he speaks French. And you twist everything around and cyber stalk me (FACT), that's pattern and obvious one.
I was former counter terrorist specialist (TOP in US) some years ago, decorated US Veteran, those people who created (Delta Force) under then 'Lt. Col. Downing. I and many other veterans know what operations are being implemented upon them, and you twist all the information around.
So have your fun, and the above you are accusing of what? No need to answer, I’m done here…
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jk
Aug 1, 2013 8:05:44 GMT -5
Post by RickH on Aug 1, 2013 8:05:44 GMT -5
Yes that’s the person, the decorated US Army Ranger selected among thousands to serve on first Delta Force Teams for search and rescue and counter-terrorist operations, decorated for saving the life of another Ranger shot multiple times in an impossible situation. Yes, the one who served directly for Lt. Col Downing, later G. Downing, we believe they must be a terrorist.
How much America has fallen, like shooting someone in the back..right Dr. P.
Good intelligence work. You must be an expert?
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jk
Aug 1, 2013 8:45:03 GMT -5
Post by RickH on Aug 1, 2013 8:45:03 GMT -5
Now that everyone has watched the video, how do KGB Physiological Warfare persons operate? Like ones mentioned earlier, that were contracted abroad for operations against US Veterans, and to simply target and determine the most skilled in counter-terrorism, intelligence, and leadership. Then they employ others to “role play as US citizens”, as they supervise, convincing groups the person mentioned above is your enemy. Therefore, they stay somewhat out of the picture, to perform their dirty deeds. Mostly, to eliminate leadership and those trained to understand how they function and their operations.
Now you should have some basic understanding how this abroad global operation is functioning.
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jk
Aug 1, 2013 8:56:03 GMT -5
Post by RickH on Aug 1, 2013 8:56:03 GMT -5
jk,
please do continue...time for me to leave. But good topic for discussion.
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jk
Aug 1, 2013 19:29:00 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Aug 1, 2013 19:29:00 GMT -5
RickH, you confuse following with 'stalking'. I follow your posts, and those of others because I come here to learn and discuss. Your posts and those of 'others, have often included links to things they have posted elsewhere, and I have followed those links, because I presumed they were posted to educate and were intended to be followed. I am listening to a youtube of LTG Jerry Boykin, ret. I am not familiar with him, but he seems like a great man. I am not educated in stalking, terrorism, counter-terrorism or anything even closely resembling these, as you have been. I was not aware, even when you or others posted re: THE CYBER STALKING ETC OF US VETS, that former KGB were doing this and I still don't understand how India is involved...or what is being done exactly, or how it is being done. And the why of it and who is funding it also escapes me. And I post to discuss. To learn. And I expect, that because my views are different from some, and agreed with by others, that I will get push back. But the only way to learn is to question and listen. From your postings, I view you as a reliable source. When you label me 'stalking you' as 'fact, you make me question my assessment of your credibility. Because I know the 'fact. And that fact is, I am not stalking. However, given what you say that you and other vets have been through, some degree of paranoia or awareness is understandable. You seem to have some 'mission' here. I do not. So you should stay. If either of us is to go, I suppose it should be I. Would you like me to leave? I did not know your background, and I believe you have misinterpreted what I tried to say. I was not accusing you of being a terrorist. Quite the contrary, I was replying to your post and saying only that I have aided the terrorists' agenda by responding to you....only IF you were a terrorist. And I believe I quickly pointed out that you IMO were not. Thank you for your service, and for the information you have shared.
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jk
Aug 1, 2013 19:35:30 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Aug 1, 2013 19:35:30 GMT -5
I do have a question that is bothering me re: the India connection. Many corporations in high technology and security are employing Indian engineers, etc. If the KGB has been carrying out covert activities in India for decades and apparently are still doing so....do we have a security problem at our nuclear plants and other installations who employ these foreign engineers? What is your opinion? Are these imported professionals actually 'sleeper cells' in terms of the psychological programming?
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jk
Aug 1, 2013 22:03:24 GMT -5
Post by RickH on Aug 1, 2013 22:03:24 GMT -5
Firecracker, I believe there is triangle working here, wealthy group from one country has company in India for contracting cyber stalking operations, and likely connection to GD larger group. Has nothing to do with India as country, worked with good friends and engineers from India (good people). However, you can have some companies doing work for other groups unknown to peoples in this country. And have problem with this, as they are using resources in this country against me and likely other vets would not recognize. However, many vets understand now that GD and KGB operatives were performing operations against US veterans, and likely linked to above as well. The fore mentioned KGB col. and I, had some very bad confrontations, he made mistake and said they were using software to track people in US. Then thereafter, wondered if the information was transmitted on to the web, or private window, as often practiced. You have to understand, have been fighting with these people for over four years, trying to stop them. I can take plenty of torture, but don’t like other vets being compromised as they are doing. And also passing information to their counter parts, all illegal, its creates national security preach. Example, one friend of mine was former Air Force one pilot for president (Rgn) some years ago.
Now, let’s reverse this for one moment, do you think CIA personnel would be able to work with KGB operatives to cyber stalk Russian Veterans, of course not. These KGB Psycho Warfare personnel are extremely skilled, and believe they are capable of accomplishing many tasks and special operations in US.
So let me try and answer your questions in this manner, would company hidden in India have resources and skill set capability: yes, with technical information. Can contracted KGB operatives create operations personnel in US: yes. Wealthy group may have connection to India, and can establish company unknown to Indian government. Why large GD group was using KGB operatives for cyber stalking peoples in US is already a problem. This first step is serious problem, why? I do not see the whole picture, but have been threatened and attacked enough to see many pieces.
I believe to have best understanding of KGB capability maybe consult with Dr. P.
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jk
Aug 1, 2013 22:26:04 GMT -5
Post by firecracker on Aug 1, 2013 22:26:04 GMT -5
Okay, thank you, it is just so warped, it's hard to wrap my mind around this. And since we don't know the reason for it, only the symptoms and results, I would have to guess it is to keep the 'good guys' from exposing what is really going on. And also, the skeptic in me, knowing about the KGB operation in India, would wonder....even if it is only 1 in 50, whether that 1 engineer or techie, with the collectivist indoctrination, might try to....at a certain point, pull off some event. And there again, we still have to consider Monarch and the possibility that if given some 'trigger' the normal, good people, might already be programmed. It's like we're all living a really bad dream.
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