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Post by firecracker on Sept 24, 2013 21:12:25 GMT -5
I seem to have forgotten...what is GWOT? And Dorothy, not in the news much lately. I'm not sure I follow how his deeds are benefitting the coup? Has certainly shown negatively on the Prez, but BHO's lies and smug attitude seem to go on forever. So BHO appears to be unfazed.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 24, 2013 21:24:11 GMT -5
The Reuters article, Bman, interesting. The spying has been focused on front running financial and corporate transactions, so Brazil's gal got that right! And BA lost a possible contract for fighter jets. Biden told us that Saudi Arabia would fund the Syrian fiasco. How much involvement in this whole mess do the Saudi's have in this? Are they simply fronting cash or does it go much much deeper?
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Post by firecracker on Sept 24, 2013 21:38:02 GMT -5
Ah, never mind, GWOT, remembered now. Global War on Terrorism.
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Post by jk on Sept 24, 2013 23:27:03 GMT -5
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Post by Bugman on Sept 25, 2013 15:07:25 GMT -5
Terrorism is about ‘fear….maybe it’s also about limiting commerce. When the commerce is limited, what is the effect? Revisiting open and closed commerce, when chaos is relevant there is limited investment in small and medium sized business (stability). When lacking this makes countries too dependent on their primary resources, because closed commerce does not create healthy economies. In such cases, primary resources are often not as competitive in the world markets, because the country becomes too dependent on these resources just to sustain.
And when there is chaos, too much security can also create limited markets and likewise investors look elsewhere. However, the investment into security can also affect the countries economy, as in both the above stated.
Is it less likely USG was breaking into computers globally, and more so contract companies working for the USG performing such task ‘on there own’. Remember, contract companies work for their ‘owners, and secondly for peoples who contract them. They can have multiple objectives given global contracts, some maybe counter intuitive.
Could GWOT be manipulated in creating new contracted power structure that many countries work under?
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Post by jk on Sept 25, 2013 17:01:32 GMT -5
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Post by jk on Sept 25, 2013 17:52:04 GMT -5
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Post by firecracker on Sept 25, 2013 18:40:42 GMT -5
re: terror, B-man, I agree with pp. 1-3 & 5. As to pp. 4, if this is what you believe has happened, it explains some of your come backs. I don't know if that has happened. But if it is so, then the machinations of the White House upon the Snowden revelations make no sense. Unless, of course, they are willing to take the fall for the snooping rather than open up a can of worms on a related issue that we (the idiot public)don't know about and which would be even WORSE than taking the fall on the Snowden info. And to a comment you made yesterday, Obama may say he wants to build up Africa which goal you support. But his actions belie this objective. And so, based on many examples, it is one more tall tale, not reality from him. Kind of like GW and the alternative energy companies. Bring those who want to advance the objective in, contain them, do the opposite.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 25, 2013 18:46:53 GMT -5
JK, it is chilling to think that false flag or terror attacks may be coming to MOA, but with the attack on the AMERICAN way of life and AMERICA herself, an attack on 'Mall' of AMERICA, fits too well. Thanks for the post. I sincerely hope it's just a bad daydream.
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Post by Bugman on Sept 25, 2013 20:54:12 GMT -5
It doesn't matter...I am tire of attempting to explain some things observed, in this country and abroad. If you think contract groups are hired for security reasons only, well....you were never targeted. Often is performed for business purposes, many do not survive unless skilled and understand. If you believe local law enforcement can assist....you don't understand the 'skill sets these groups pursue. How do so many 'terrorist acts occur today?
By providing you with so many 'false targets, you lose complete conception of the 'objectivity.
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Post by Bugman on Sept 25, 2013 21:49:33 GMT -5
Dorothy was likely used to control the ‘focus, when ‘focus is controlled peoples can be lead in many directions then slowly lose their objectivity |Positive direction is transformed into confusion|. When the ‘focus is often changed and controlled, the objectivity becomes less clear and thereafter peoples tend to lose interest in their pursuant of things.
In special operations such thing can be manipulated, in other cases used for survival technique.
Dr. P likely understands the above,
I will not go into detail, but related to control. To maintain control by few, may require controlling the ‘focus.
When you understand the above, contract groups can be problem.
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Post by Bugman on Sept 26, 2013 13:41:53 GMT -5
Example from Bugman, An illusionist is only successful when they control your ‘focus, sometimes this accomplished by cleverly inserting people into the audience. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qVsLXNCrSoIf one wished to discovery how things where being accomplished, maybe by offshore coup, they would use the best of technology to pursue the funding, communications, and other such things. To prevent such thing, the ‘illusionist or coup would simply change the ‘focus’ to prevent such exposures’. Then Abracadabra...Dorothy appears and the 'focus is redirected or altered, and such can serve multiple purposes, the coups’ onshore and offshore objectivity, which may relate to surveillance contracts, resources and such, GWOT the audience, and control. The illusionist must control your ‘focus to succeed. www.youtube.com/watch?v=po0gNf0iMsc
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Post by jk on Sept 26, 2013 18:43:56 GMT -5
il·lu·sion noun \i-ˈlü-zhən\ : something that looks or seems different from what it is : something that is false or not real but that seems to be true or real
DOROTHY ...Latin meaning..."Gift from God".
FOCUS....."Another trick that is occasionally used as part of stage magic is the use of a “shill”. This is someone, known to the magician, who poses as part of the audience and is invited on stage to “assist” with a trick. The magician may well ask the “shill” to confirm that they have never seen each other before, which they will do."
NSA revelations on their own would have been the death of the current Admin. Snowden having "exposed" the NSA spying is the first step to conditioning the population to acceptance of constant surveillance. Snowden is the "shill". The trick is using the GWOT to convince the audience that embracing the surveillance is for their safety. The Government will protect you. Who BENEFITS from the surveillance state?....the contractors of course. Directly... Cofer Black, George Tenet, Tom Ridge, Micheal Chertoff, Micheal Hayden...etc. Then there is the group above that...
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Post by Bugman on Sept 26, 2013 20:17:52 GMT -5
Jk, Sorry for the movie trailers, seemed appropriate.
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Post by Bugman on Sept 26, 2013 20:25:13 GMT -5
One last item, what is difference between first movie trailer and second?
The first does not mention, but second is about making something ‘disappear…..and thereafter ‘reappear…called The Prestige or coup.
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