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Post by RH on Sept 1, 2013 14:41:04 GMT -5
So the question is,
How does a well financed 'coup' operating largely offshore finally take over the U.S., so they can rewrite history in their favor? Do they need someone 'new' to blame...is propaganda pointing in this direction?
Do they need to over extend the U.S. firstly, then what?
Place the pieces together....
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Post by RH on Sept 1, 2013 14:47:34 GMT -5
Shall I continue or stop?
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Post by RH on Sept 1, 2013 18:09:39 GMT -5
What is the international 'coups' primary tool or asset they can manipulate besides their contracted military and intelligence groups abroad? The 'watch list', and use for covert psychological warfare within the U.S. from abroad, and for targeting anyone smart enough to expose them. Are several other countries secretly working with them, and if they needed some group or peoples to blame for past blunders, have they already pointed the finger at those peoples. And to further their program of fragmentation, and scale up their possible plan. Would they eliminate these people, if knowing they can blame them for something other, to in fact rewrite short and past history as well?
In the late 2000’s why did the ‘international coup’ hire so many KGB assets and others to create the above propaganda and distribute this information internationally? Then engage quickly with programs to fragment peoples and blame all abroad on U.S. To start eliminating one by one U.S. allies in the Middle East, then point the finger to the U.S. for the blame or another small country?
Nothing is solved through ‘fear’….such state eliminates the debate and discussion, and yet ‘fear’ is the tool through which continuance of any possible outcome is achieved.
It is only theory? and yet some of the information is fact.
If to save the lives of millions of people, would you risk ‘your’ own life to do so?
Regarding that small company stated in past, after the investigation was stopped. They hired someone from prominent family 2005-2007. While working for this company they made trip to Brazil, for other business purposes and possible acquisition of large land.
Other executives in this company used this ‘acquaintance’ as threat to witnesses assisting federal agency and investigation. Ensuring to witnesses their connections to those above, and how they would eliminate them, and yes something very wrong here. It was not the new hire, but those above, and doubt the new hire had any knowledge of what was really taking place abroad. Now the federal agency had to back all the way down.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 1, 2013 18:25:47 GMT -5
Yes, I found that quote you reference at 4:20 to be quite interesting. And very true. I have certainly discovered that in my political activities. And the interesting thing is, after they get kicked in the ass by the boot...as he so astutely points out....THEN they come to me and say, how right I was and how bad it has gotten. But all the proof in the world could not crash through their shields before. As to 'doubt there would be any interest', I am interested, but you have been careful or coy in not coming out and laying it bare. And I get lost in the tangles and twists. As you have stated, yours has been a theory. But if some of the elements of your theory have already played out and confirmed, it might at least be worth a listen. I am all ears. Try me.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 1, 2013 18:36:52 GMT -5
Okay, just one small point. I would not risk my life by providing on this forum information. Nor, IMO, should you. So to be specific. If riddles are what we must live with, then riddles it must be. Only you can know what is lethal and what not. And yes, I did read and found informative the stages of Genocide. In first read, agreed with the early stages and ruminated on others. And the list gets ever larger, and I understand what that is. And more importantly, what that may become. And yes, the body count is accelerating. And I don't hate Obama because he is black. I hate him because he is a liar, because he is arrogant, because he is more concerned with himself than humanity, because he is the 'most powerful position in the world' and is doing NOTHING that I can determine to slow the progression of what he MUST know is happening. And because he is a puppet, he has given us 2 more terms of 'Bush', as I can see no difference in the administrations. The only difference I can see is that the Bush administration had surrounding it what appeared to be 'normal' freedom loving people with 'normal' family oriented focus. The operative word, just so you know I am not ignorant, is 'appeared'. The O administration is comprised of people who have 'interesting' backgrounds or are directly tied to the Too Big To Fail Banks TBTFB. The previous administrations had interesting ties too but not so overtly running the administration. Now it's all out in the open and nobody seems to care. This is a world take over plan and it is accelerating at a heart stopping pace (for some it has been LITERAL heart stopping).
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Post by RH on Sept 1, 2013 19:16:45 GMT -5
1. How does previous bad group 'international coup' become false good group? 2. 2. Are they somewhat invisible, and yet perpetuating propaganda? 3. What would larger war in M.E. do? 4. / and possible Dorothy Intel 4. What does over extension mean? 5. How does 'international coup' make them appear good (falsely)? 2. 6. How would they take over? 7. 7. Is M.E. an example of their operations ‘international coup’? 8. Who would they make ‘new bad group’ here in US? 9. Will they collect those of list, and those who ‘support’ the newly perceived bad group? 10. Will this occur during the above example here? 4. & 7. 11. Will they eliminate all opposition during the possible take over? 12. Have they partnered with other countries through major business deals? 13. Is everything in place for the ‘theory’ as stated above? 14. Has this same process been repeated throughout history?
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Post by RH on Sept 1, 2013 19:19:08 GMT -5
Hope this administration thinks about this possibility. I believe they are being setup from large group abroad.
That's all people...be safe.
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Post by RH on Sept 1, 2013 19:38:34 GMT -5
last note. The reason you can’t perceive the eight stages, is because much is being performed invisibly, meaning ‘electronically’ from abroad. Its new method using technology, I know worked hard to discover some things, tag and bag. In time this will be discovered, and this will also perpetuate the above. But then, its always the later before many understand.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 1, 2013 21:19:40 GMT -5
Okay, so I'll tackle this like eating an elephant. I'll push some to one side of the plate and tackle the morsels that I can. First, I agree with your later statement that this administration is being set up...I agree. But I think the difference in my view of this and yours is that I think we have more to fear of what this administration will do to get out of the corner they are in (at least in the short term) than what the coup is doing...again, in the short term. So, Item 9, yes, they are already picking off the list and those that they are not killing, they are destroying financially or marginalizing so they cannot support themselves or rise above the ceiling they create for them. I think we can call it containment and destruction. More containment currently, but eventually will be more destruction. 4. If you mean by over extension the possibility that we will have troops in the Middle East and a war that we cannot support financially and that a possible collapse could leave those troops stranded...some have spoken of this possibility. Imagine how demoralizing it will be if a carrier group (thousands) or a U.S. force on the ground is stranded or eliminated. THOUSANDS dead. Then add $5-$10 per gallon gas in the U.S., the public will go nuts. Item #11, yes, they will eliminate all opposition during the takeover....AND, they will eliminate the minions who have served them because they realize the minions could be bought and therefore cannot be trusted. And we know this because, yes, #14, this has happened multiple times throughout history...see Naomi Wolfe's youtube speeches on Blueprint to Tyranny. There is a blueprint and it has been used over and over again.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 1, 2013 21:33:00 GMT -5
Alright, so I've moved 4,9,11+14 off the plate. 6. They will take over by promoting themselves as the saviors, the ones on the white horses coming to rescue the public from the fear that they, the coup, have created. 8. And the newly demonized group will be those who would recognize and oppose them. That includes awake patriots and ex-military and ex-law enforcement. And how will they do that? False flags perpetrated by the coup and blamed on this group of likely opposition. 12. And yes, they have partnered with other countries in major business deals. If you want to go looking for those in this coup, you look in the tax free foundations and the multi-national corporations and especially in the oil elite.
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Post by RH on Sept 1, 2013 21:38:34 GMT -5
firecracker,
I was fighting this at the highest level, people do not understand what they are capable of doing. They can care less how many people they eliminate...
Iran is a trap, prevention is the key. That engagement is the point where they can proceed with all the above.
Have a niece weekend, I don't mine dying as long as others understand what these people are capable of, and their methods, the future is with our young people.
Electronically they stalk people and torture, you will never be employed again period, or even travel abroad. You are dead by that very 'tag', which many do not understand.
Cao
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Post by firecracker on Sept 1, 2013 21:57:10 GMT -5
While we are over extended financially and #7. bogged down in the Middle East, possibly stranding our troops and creating the catalyst (high gas prices in the U.S.) for the financial collapse that they already know is coming SOON, they can do whatever they want. During this chaos they can do #10. So the U.N. comes in to quell the chaos and uprising in the U.S. and collects the guns for keeping the peace. #5 the U.N. is not endorsing the Syria deal...so I know you are targeting a different group, but I am inclined to think the U.N. will have its ugly face in this also. #13 it does appear that the possibility of the take down is getting very close
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Post by RH on Sept 1, 2013 21:57:43 GMT -5
Your correct with 6,8,12, I was trying to reiterate this...your assessment is near. However, don't agree with all removed from the plate.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 1, 2013 22:00:51 GMT -5
Thanks, RH, you have a great weekend also. And yes, they are capable of unthinkable things. Death and darkness are their dessert.
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Post by firecracker on Sept 2, 2013 20:23:44 GMT -5
This makes sense to me! Meanwhile, the Syrian Electronic Army hacked the official US Marines website and left an astounding message calling on US soldiers to join the Syrian Army in fighting Al-Qaeda. static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/september2013/020913hack.jpgThe full text of the message reads: “This is a message written by your brothers in the Syrian Army, who have been fighting al-Qaida for the last 3 years. We understand your patriotism and love for your country so please understand our love for ours. Obama is a traitor who wants to put your lives in danger to rescue al- Qaida insurgents. Marines, please take a look at what your comrades think about Obama’s alliance with al-Qaida against Syria. Your officer in charge probably has no qualms about sending you to die against soldiers just like you, fighting a vile common enemy. The Syrian army should be your ally not your enemy. Refuse your orders and concentrate on the real reason every soldier joins their military, to defend their homeland. You’re more than welcome to fight alongside our army rather than against it. Your brothers, the Syrian army soldiers. A message delivered by the SEA.”
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