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Post by firecracker on Feb 6, 2014 23:17:39 GMT -5
Interesting concept presented in 'A New Equation for Intelligence'. Encompasses human, computer & robotic.
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Post by inventorunknown on Feb 7, 2014 16:08:27 GMT -5
May I ask your interest in the subject matter?
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Post by firecracker on Feb 7, 2014 16:50:00 GMT -5
I.U. Two areas of interest in the intelligence subject. First, the previous posts where we discussed some of your work. But second, I found it interesting what the computers were able to do and the whole look at the possibility of intelligence as creating maximum future possibilities.
Many extremely intelligent people operate differently than the general population. And in the few moments I considered this concept after stumbling across the video, it occurred to me that myself and others may track differently because we SEE the enclosures that society has created for the population and are 'wired' to avoid them, thereby creating maximum future possibilities.
Also, there is a third possibility, we have discussed 'ethics in artificial intelligence and the negative aspects of lack of 'ethics.
In the 'wiring to create maximum future possibilities, is it possible that the 'intelligence of the robots and computers will see that lack of what we consider to be 'ethical behavior, will destroy future possibilities, so that the super intelligence will actually steer their decisions in an 'ethical direction.
Bottom line, I thought there were interesting discussion and thought points opened up by this 'different spin on 'intelligence.
What did you think about this spin (in the video) on intelligence?
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Post by inventorunknown on Feb 8, 2014 16:38:21 GMT -5
I’ll make one last comment,
And only for attempting to stimulate some though and thereafter will stop completely for reasons.
Shown below is an earlier comment, and somewhat strange for some people. So will make some attempt to explain this more with respect to basic units of measure.
(Earlier comment)
Before losing the true message of our story,
We should revisit the ‘vessel as referenced in scene (2). So let’s imagine for one moment how an advanced or universal civilization might provide some message.
First, we should consider written language with respect to variations and meaning or in some cases the variance and mean as applied in simplistic languages such as mathematics. In most cases the visual representation of language can be illustrated using characters and ‘variations of’ to produce some meaning or mean. A sophisticated representation can consist of special characters whose meaning may encompass paragraphs of text or even pages in some cases, while mathematical algorithms in others. Secondly, when attempting to translate these characters and produce some mean from this ‘variance, the result typically reflects the cultural interpretation forming this ‘meaning. The meaning of these messages can be misinterpreted using this method, whereas the 'nearest meaning' or mean is achieved using multicultural variations from which this meaning was likely produced. Therefore, the message(s) discovered inside this vessel were likely the reflection of some ‘mean as produced through multicultural variations. And probably intentional, so the language and message can only be translated and thereafter correctly conceived when continuity of existence is inherent.
I believe for this story, about ‘10 seconds inside this vessel with some visual representation of the above stated will be adequate (for now). The reason, the greater height maybe achieved when the stairs are realized, or each ‘step required to reach this height. And only achieved when the ‘mean is realized through the ‘variations achieved. And reason for the global distribution of information as described in the story previously outlined, so variations of translation can be produced from the message and technology provided.
Reference the above to scene (2) of our earlier story for objectivity.
(End comment)
The above is related to (variations) produced from some mean (or unit of discovery), and such process is continuous. Meaning, variations will produce means (units of discovery) by which other variations will be produced from these means, and thereafter another mean is produced and so forth. A continuous process of discovery used for sustaining life and expanding outward. There are many units of discovery in various areas associated with adaptation and beyond.
Some basic representation of Intelligence maybe associated with the above said, and the (affect) can be either positive or negative growth (the result).
Intelligence maybe,
Approximately equal to the affect of the summation of (units of discovery) times the (distribution per unit) as function of time. ∑ i-∞ {(UoD)(Pknown)/(Ptotal)}with respect to growth the ‘affect’.
Population distribution or basic (those who know/those who don’t know (total)),
Overtime this knowledge and distribution process started with peoples and groups, and thereafter this process formed societies, and later civilizations, and maybe later universal. The distribution component of the above stated over time.
Force, control, and containment, can result in the inverse or slowing of the above said. Hopefully, some better understanding of the above paragraph as related to earlier story.
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Post by firecracker on Feb 8, 2014 22:28:01 GMT -5
Would it be fair to say that we are currently experiencing force, control and containment.
And would it also be fair to say that the way this is done is by creating fear which focuses the minds of many on a very narrow plane.
And would it also be fair to say that with a free internet and the freedom to share technology on the internet, that the result without the FC&C would be an amazing expansion of technology, much of it immensely helpful to mankind and to the preservation of the planet. And that the powers that be are entrenched in the financial aspects of the current system and are using force, control and containment to keep us from getting out of their lucrative system?
Is it possible, if one were able to tune ones mind to scan, and place ones hand on the script left behind by the previous civilization, that there would be some frequency or energy existing in the script that could bypass the 'language' of the hand's 'mind and 'speak directly to the nascent intelligence in a way that could later be translated by the mind into the currently used language?
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Post by inventorunknown on Feb 9, 2014 17:55:19 GMT -5
Maybe pursue emphasis (non structured) biological component, possibly some association with residual memory (understand the difference).
The reason for the 'emphasis', is there are some 'structured components' of residual memory. Where residual memory may attempt to reassembly molecular fractionalized matter (an example).
good luck in your prospects.
Some thought,
If you knew of someone who had an accident and this resulted in the lost of an arm or leg, they might tell you during recovery they sensed the arm or leg still remained. This may have some association with residual memory. Without saying more about this subject matter, think about this for one moment and with regards to the past and present times or possibly the past-future. Think about why advanced civilizations might use characters or picture type symbols to represent larger volumes of knowledge and information, why? Think about how you communicate today using various frequencies and other technologies. Think about if all this were removed as of some large natural disaster, would the few remaining peoples trying to recover seem primitive and struggling without the advanced technology while having minimal skills in their new environment? Maybe their equation for intelligence was wrong, and this error caused another cycle?
Something to think about with regards to residual memory and frequencies
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Post by firecracker on Feb 11, 2014 21:03:29 GMT -5
from Wikipedia:
The characteristic of "intelligence" is usually attributed to humans. More recently, many products and items also claim to be "intelligent". Intelligence is directly linked to the reasoning and decision making. Fuzzy logic was introduced in 1965 as a tool to formalise and represent the reasoning process and fuzzy logic systems which are based on fuzzy logic possess many characteristics attributed to intelligence. Fuzzy logic deals effectively with uncertainty that is common for human reasoning, perception and inference and, contrary to some misconceptions, has a very formal and strict mathematical backbone ('is quite deterministic in itself yet allowing uncertainties to be effectively represented and manipulated by it', so to speak). Neural networks, introduced in 1940s (further developed in 1980s) mimic the human brain and represent a computational mechanism based on a simplified mathematical model of the perceptrons (neurons) and signals that they process.
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Post by firecracker on Feb 11, 2014 21:05:29 GMT -5
Fuzzy logic
Fuzzy logic is a form of many-valued logic; it deals with reasoning that is approximate rather than fixed and exact. Compared to traditional binary sets fuzzy logic variables may have a truth value that ranges in degree between 0 and 1.
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Post by inventorunknown on Feb 12, 2014 17:47:40 GMT -5
Would you like simple example of artificial intelligence?
I can do this using the equation shown earlier, however it must be expanded from the baseline and thereafter influenced as result of needs, and prefer the term ‘influence versus control’. The PKnown and resource distribution among UoDs’ must be influenced with the use of future projections, and yet another level is to create Total Intelligence (IT) as the sum of intelligences (IT = ∑ i-∞ (I1 + I2 +I3…In)) so each equation for intelligence (reference I1-n) has some artificial existence or making ∑ i-∞ (UoD)(PKnown)/(Ptotal) become more intelligent by influencing the affect. The next level is to make these units of intelligence (I1-n) create themselves, evolve in time, and then hibernate when need is substantially reduced, and likewise come out of hibernation when need is increased. Hibernation is used so each unit of intelligence can maintain its residual memory. Strange thing, as the intelligence increases this term residual memory i-∞ seems to surface once again?
Actually, it’s good ideal to do so
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Post by inventorunknown on Feb 12, 2014 18:41:02 GMT -5
Last note,
Your not suggesting there is another internet, and if so would it operate somewhat differently? Instead of searching for solutions and thereafter being presented, thought in itself presents the solutions directly to the mind…then another question becomes…what is the frequency of this connection? And then another, is it possible some people know this frequency?
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Post by firecracker on Feb 12, 2014 21:13:59 GMT -5
Okay, you're a sharp guy. And you know, from our previous conversations and my research of the topics that I know the answer to that question. Yes, some know the frequency. Yes, some are using it now on targeted individuals. And certainly, there are documents that show they plan to use the frequency on many more. And, don't I recall that Obama has made 'brain research' a priority of his administration.
The only thing I still question, is how well are they able to use this to control their puppets. We know of their other mind control techniques and they have been quite effective. But how much source to brain via frequency are they doing with their puppets now. I'm not talking frequency harassment. I'm talking control of actions, thoughts, speech. Can they, via frequency, control a speaker, inserting the speech so that the speaker does not need a teleprompter. Or, that the speaker intends to say one thing, and something entirely different is actually spoken. That's the puzzle for me.
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Post by firecracker on Feb 12, 2014 21:22:27 GMT -5
Oh.....I just now 'got it'. Holy Smoke! So, the people who know the frequency, are they on the sending end or the receiving end....hmmmmm. If I wanted to access this frequency, I wonder how I would tune my brain to do so. hmmmmmmm
Wow, imagine having a big question, THINKING it, and having the answer instantly appear in your brain. I am thinking that this would be done in a meditative state. For instance, my best problem solving is while occupying my present mind with some mundane task. Mowing a large yard on a riding mower, driving a farm tractor, vacuuming....often in noisy environment. hmmmm
Oh, I'll bet that is part of it....a certain sound frequency possibly by music or tones.
Ala the Tibetan monks perhaps.
Imagine the power of this. WOW!
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Post by inventorunknown on Feb 13, 2014 8:31:54 GMT -5
More of this equation needs explained, maybe how it comes to life and evolves. If that’s OK, for some reason it doesn't wish to go away.
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Post by firecracker on Feb 13, 2014 10:39:21 GMT -5
While watching the snow PILE UP on my mountain, I'm interested, so when you get around to it, I look forward to your explanation. Fascinating stuff! It's like science fiction incarnate.
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Post by inventorunknown on Feb 13, 2014 11:06:22 GMT -5
Believe it or not?
For the equation to function properly it must be able to create an ‘artificial civilization’.
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