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Post by inventorunknown on Apr 29, 2013 11:48:14 GMT -5
I do not have time to go further then that stated above, it’s basic method to prevent people from residing in ‘illusionary world’. And who creates these illusionary worlds? Just throw stone into pond of water and observe the ripples as they flow outward, and the distortions created within these ripples. It’s simple to discover the distortions, and the ‘businesses’ associated with such things. I am well aware of this ‘construct’.
Have worked around the globe on complex projects, and worked with engineers and technology companies from your country. What I have noticed, is more and more engineers and scientist firstly saying, this specific objective can not be accomplished ‘reactionary’. However, and thereafter group is formed and the complex problem is solved within week’s time. If the solution was not possible, why was such accomplished in one week’s time?
Or the real question, why are so many saying something’s not possible, before it’s properly examined, why the ‘reaction’ before the thinking? What ‘illusion’ taught them otherwise? Was this associated some ‘business’ protecting their interest, and was their interest with regards to all?
The only ‘heads’ that are ‘not clear’ are the ones creating the ‘illusion’. And what happens when ‘illusions’ operate without being challenged, look around.
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Post by inventorunknown on Apr 29, 2013 12:35:59 GMT -5
An example before departing,
I come here, because Dr.P provides a ‘problem’ and ‘solution’ and such in unity with the above simple equation. However, the problem presented may affect millions or more people. But how many participate in the solutions for which the problem affects? And therefore if R<1, may mean many people reside in an ‘illusionary environment’ that’s based on ‘Problem or Negative Attributes’, where there’s difficulty resolving real problems or ‘affect with no cause’. It’s just simple mathematical expression for efficiency that’s expressed above as reality, or sustainability ideally when in unity. That’s all.
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Post by firecracker on Apr 29, 2013 14:32:33 GMT -5
To your analogy of the stone in the pond...just look at a couple of bombs thrown into a marathon and the ripples that have extended out far beyond Boston. And with each larger ripple is greater profitability for those who are behind those who placed the bombs. The greater the pond, the further out the ripples can expand, the larger and more profitable. This is a studied problem/reaction. We are still searching for the solution.
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Post by somersdave on Apr 29, 2013 15:20:29 GMT -5
The terminology all looks a bit Rumsfeldian to me - you know like " things we know we don't know...etc."
I'm trying to get to grips with a whole area of math relating to optimization, calculus of variations and vector calculus in order to keep 'in touch' (difficult as I'm not a 'natural' but I spent many years working in areas as diverse as defence, scientific satellite simulation to computerised steel production control/coordination - so looking for silly little errors in computer code, like 2+3 = 6 is no revelation) in the vain hope that this entity where I live is one day a country.
It's 'funny' that a previous post relates to giving away knowhow to the East, I still have the copy of a missive 'Tales from Rourkela' (from a technical advisor :'...and we think we have problems') - now the large steel company is Indian owned and no doubt having any knowhow syphoned away (thanks Mr Blair and the City). So, I thought why bother.
Another analogy to your problem/solution springs to mind : that of an over damped (little or slow response to input) / under damped (rapid response and continued oscillation) system.
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Post by inventorunknown on Apr 29, 2013 15:33:59 GMT -5
It's just method, and not about who knows what? A suggestion...I believe there's is remaining a 'right' to suggest.
The stone thrown into the pond is reference to ‘information’, as you probably know. The event may have been the result of information to create distortions in the ripples.
A reaction is ‘not’ a solution it’s ‘response’. An ‘illusionary environment’ that’s based on ‘solution or positive attributes’ is where there’s difficulty in discovering the real problems, ‘cause with little affect’. And such can be based on ‘programmatic reactionary responses’ which simply means the response may have been ‘pre-programmed’ before the problem was introduced. However, in many cases is ‘not the solution’.
The simply equation is about efficiency, and how this relates to sustainability as to problems and solutions. The solution maybe obtained as result of information that identifies the ‘real’ problem. Another stone thrown in the pond, maybe strategically placed.
That's all, sorry for the occupied space. Bye Dr.P and good luck.
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Post by inventorunknown on Apr 29, 2013 17:42:44 GMT -5
Forgive me, I always leave a stupid story behind.
An old story, There was an artist of paintings and famous for their works, masterpieces they would say. However, later in life the artist would paint a picture many times, over and over. Many thought all were masterpieces, but the artist was not content. The artist knew for the vision they aspired many would have to participate for the work to complete. So they itched an outline of the painting with pencil and carried to market place, and posed as small merchant. As people came forth, the artist would say, “I will give this itching to group who has vision and aspirations to complete the works. Many complaints were made, some saying, ‘who would want this incomplete work’, while others had vision and desired to work alone. Slowly by slowly small group started to form, and with ‘vision’ to complete and make the drawing into painting, so day by day they would meet and discuss their project. Then one day they decided it was time to complete the works, so they assigned each other different tasks. In a week or so, the painting was complete, and far beyond the dreams the artist imagined. The ‘masterpiece’ they so desired was not in the mind of ‘one’, but in the mind of ‘many’. And this was the pursuit of the artist, for the masterpiece they so desired.
Are you an artist? Of course you are.
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Post by firecracker on Apr 29, 2013 23:39:17 GMT -5
I am a painter and a poet. But my experiences have not given me the interest or the confidence to bring others into my creations. I work in watercolor, pen and ink and sculpture. Quickly, serendipitously. It is a selfish personal extraction process, and if others enjoy and appreciate the result, fine. if they do not, it is no problem. Everything is fleeting anyway. Perhaps if I were more skilled and open, like the merchant/artist in your story, I could paint a picture of liberty that would bring others into the picture and convince them to help paint the return to freedom that I desire for our country. You leave me wondering where in the world you call home. Perhaps Spain. It is a bit of a stupid story. But I don't think you are leaving. Why would you go? Have you accomplished that for which you came? Is there no further benefit you can imagine? If, however, I am wrong about your leaving, it has been a moment. And a pleasure.
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Post by unknown on Apr 30, 2013 20:28:28 GMT -5
Thanks Dr.P Here are some more questions you can research regarding the below subject.
Ask the F-I Director if?
Dr. P, I need to finish the questions...it gets worse.
Is it safe here? At this point in time, have nothing to lose.
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